Israel and allies have spent enormous resources convincing themselves and anyone they can that Palestinians don't exist.

Your iPhone / Samsung is manufactured there. So no, that's a bad take. You get what you pay for, and good quality is still cheaper than made elsewhere.

This is the first generation with worse prospects than the previous one. Wealth inequality is growing, and robber barons are back. Climate change is making any prospects even worse.

Combine that with a communication revolution (social media, to be exact) which allows anyone to pretty much target anyone else with any message they feel like, means disinformation pushing narratives is everywhere. And not to forget, there people in charge of these platforms are among the aforementioned robber barons.

It's easy to offer simple solutions to these problems and push disinformation to people who don't have the knowledge, time or energy to debunk everything and think deeply about things, since they're busy slaving away to put food on their tables, struggling to build a future, and looking for solutions. And simple answers give people a sense of control or explanation over their difficult situation.

It's why I have completely removed myself from every social media platform there is, except this one and I'm only on here intermittently.

I'm not a communist because I think communism is a big failure.

So is deregulation and unfettered capitalism. It's why every time we deregulate and cut taxes, the wealth gap gets wider, life gets shitter for everyone but the wealthiest, etc...

These are the same clowns who added most of the debt (Bush and Trump tax cuts) then complain about the debt when they're no longer in power.

Hamas doesn't give a fuck about peace, ceasefires, children, or anything else.

That doesn't mean Israel should get carte blanche to do whatever they want. Let's not forget that prominent members of the current Israeli government have expressed very clear genocidal desires of their own.

Yeah sure.

Conservatives elect speaker who doesn't believe in dinosaurs, ancient history or climate change, wants to make homosexuality illegal, voted to overturn the election and did everything in his power to thwart it, reporters aren't allowed to question it, but it's those opposed who are "scum".

Them's Nazi words, quite literally. You really need an education.

You make some strange and easily debunkable claims here.

• If "all Palestinians" cherished Hamas there wouldn't be a Fatah or a PA.

• The Israeli right wing literally supported Hamas over Fatah in order to justify continued violence and land theft against the Palestinians. Hamas and the settlers (who are now the Israeli government) are literally feeding off each other.

• The main reason this attack succeeded was because the Gaza border was unmanned, because the current Israeli government moved the military to the West Bank in order to protect the settlers there while they commit attacks on the Palestinians there. Despite the Israeli military describing some of the actions of these settlers as a "progrom".

• The "Muslim fundamentalists of the Levant" comprise Christians and other groups too, including Jews before this entire conflict started. There had been Jews in the Levant for millennia, despite it being under Muslim rule for 1400 years. Jews were still banned from Jerusalem under the Byzantines, until the Muslims conquered it and allowed Jews to return to the city. Jerusalem had a Jewish majority when the British took control of the place.

• I find this idea that the hatred is exclusively due to anti-Semitism to be the stupidest one Israel tries to put out there. Had Palestine been occupied by Bhuddists or atheists, you think they would not resist, or hate their occupier? Was the Viet-Cong motivated by anti-Christian values in fighting both France and the USA? How stupid are you?

Well I'm not sure what really can. What the hell did the Indian government think they were doing?

It's Russia levels of shittiness.

He always, always has to present himself as a victim. What a baby.

Whataboutism is literally a logical fallacy. We are talking about Russia, so talk about Russia.

So from having had a few exchanges with pro Russian accounts on Lemmy (which seems to be infested with a few very active ones) this is a summary of their arguments:

• "Ukraine is Nazi"
• "Well far right parties got a total of under 6% of the vote, and they elected a Jewish man president"
• "yeah but Bandera and whatabout America"

• "Ukraine killed ethnic Russians"
• "A huge percentage of their population are ethnic Russians, including in government, and they are fine, and were until the Russian invasion. And now it's Russia that has killed, maimed and raped more ethnic Russians, including civilians, than Ukraine every did or even could. Including their own people thorough incompetence and corruption".
• "Yeah but Bandera, and whatabout America"

• "Ukraine is fighting because they are forced to by their colonial masters, the USA and NATO, and Ukrainians will keep dying so long as they keep being armed"
• "Actually > 90% of the population wants to continue fighting for their country back, so what you're basically saying is you think Ukrainians should be abandoned to Russian enslavement"
• "Yeah but Bandera, and whatabout America"

• "NATO and USA are colonialists and this is just more colonialism"
• "Actually both Russia and China are actual, bone fide land empires, with ethnic minorities that are forced to live like colonized people - including doing the fighting for Russia while their families back home live in misery and squalor and Putin's Mafia collect mansions, private jets and yachts"
• "Yeah but Bandera, and whatabout America"

Just like the thousands of other war crimes, yes.