@Sigmatics Habits can be unlearned over a few generations. Doesn't mean in becomes practical all if a sudden. It's just messy to say "I'll do this tomorrow" when "tomorrow" might mean "before I go to bed".

"See you Monday!"
"Eh, before or after sleep on Monday?"

It's just not viable. It requires us to think differently about what a date is, returning the original issue: different people living at different dates.

@Sigmatics you can have everyone on the same time zone and still have different day/night cycles. It just means you have to get up at 14:00 and go to sleep at 5:00. The big problem with this is that the date-switch happens for everyone at the same time, which means you might have breakfast on Thursday and lunch on Friday. That makes it terribly inconvenient, and therefore probably unviable.

@sugar_in_your_tea Using asserts in any code except testing is frowned upon, afaik. You should use specific exceptions instead of vague unlabeled assertion errors.

You also seem to think that you're not allowed to use exception to communicate the fact a check failed. If that's the case, you're seriously underusing the power of exceptions.

It sounds a lot to me like you don't even want to use Python or think it shouldn't be used for anything serious. Why then even argue about it?

@sugar_in_your_tea I'm by far not qualified to discuss this in depth. But it seems to me that almost every function call ever can fail. Therefore, do you need to do this with every single function call?

That seems terribly inefficient and bloated. How is that readable for anyone?

@sugar_in_your_tea The idea of exceptions is that you can choose when to deal with them. So if you want to deal with them immediately,
nothing is stopping you.

If you think handling errors with every function call explicitly is easier, I guess you're using very few functions. For the project I'm working on, your proposal would probably double the number of lines. Thanks, but no thanks.

@sugar_in_your_tea If you're expecting exceptions, make custom ones. That's the best way to distinguish between those you expect and those you don't. Using custom exceptions improves readability too.

@danielquinn agreed! You can work around the performance issues by wrapping it in a function.

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@nikaro iterable means: has __iter__() method. So there's no real difference, as far as I can see.

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