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Allyship rule (sh.itjust.works)

ID: Drawing of a duck billed platypus underwater, they're wearing a rainbow coloured t shirt and a pink bum-bag, and saying: "Ally is not something you can self-identify as, it's a title that you earn. Let your actions speak for themselves!"

Credit: Sophie Labelle

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[-] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So in your opinion indirect action may as well be inaction?

Say I have coworkers with certain opinions on gendering people, use of pronouns or who still use dated terms like "Tranny" or "Shemale".

I spend my days correcting them when they misgender or reminding them of acceptable words to describe people. I have political discussions where we come to terms about how LGBT rights are human rights. They've corrected their behaviour and now speak of LGBT folks in a kinder light.

I don't directly see how those actions affect LGBT folks. I don't have tangible evidence I have made a person's life better through my actions.

Am I an Ally or not?

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

No, indirect action is a form of action, stopping a transphobe from being transphobic is a form of allyship, because presumably, you've saved a trans person from feeling unsafe around that person.

[-] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Because you stated that, on the presumption their actions prevented transphobia, that person would be an ally. But that presumption can only be fact checked by themselves anyway; Does this not mean then, that a person should have the right to label themselves an ally if they self-assess their actions as allyship?

Or does someone have to ally-check each of their actions once performed with some sort of... council or committee, as I have here?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Ok, so proclaiming yourself an ally doesn't make you an ally, unless 1 person notices it?

I feel that someone noticing it is a part of "proclaiming", but I agree with you. I do think you worded it rather strictly and awkwardly. Telling yourself that you're an ally is worthless, telling someone else has value.

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