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I have a theory that many right-wingers have the same problems with the system as we do, but their understanding of it is just wrong.
I related more with my gun-toting, trump supporting coworker in conversations than I ever did with my libshit coworker.
He could talk about how the rich own everything, mentioned how the pandemic was the biggest transfer of wealth to the rich, etc. but then he would end up with libertarian views instead of communist ones, it's shocking.
I don't know how we'll ever shed light to them, but they hate rich people just as much as we do, unlike the liberals who idolize any rich person that does performative justice.
there are also a lot of libs that are just normal working class people
The liberal perspective of everything is going fine actually for the past 4 years is so much more delusional than the people who are constantly pissed off and reaching for the wrong solutions.
The American two-party/one-party state. One half can't find the problem and the other can't find the solution. And then people wonder why neither of them can make shit better. No matter which side of the coin comes up when you flip it nothing gets better because neither is adequate to the task at hand. How much I believe that is accidental or by design depends on how cynical I'm feeling that day.
i felt the same with my right-wing populist coworker. he saw what i did, and came to the wrong conclusions.
1000% agree. as sartre famously said, "anti-semitism is the anti-capitalism of fools." as leftists we can interpret this either as 1) rightists are fools and totally unsalvageable or 2) rightists have a solid grasp of the problem and we just need to get them to understand that our proposed solutions to it are better than theirs
obviously some (or even most) rightists are too far down the rabbit hole, but there are definitely those who aren't really that committed to it and therefore can be won over. especially if we get some more hyper-competent propaganda of the deed
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