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McConnell on Ukraine proxy war: "We haven’t lost a single American in this war. Most of the money that we spend, is spent on replenishing weapons, so it’s actually employing people here."[paraphrased] (edition.cnn.com)
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Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

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[-] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Yes, but the point is with Cuba, missiles were removed, peace deal was reached.

Yeah so the obvious conclusion is that peace in Cuba required satisfying the US’s demand to not have a Soviet military presence there.

Likewise peace in Ukraine requires not having a NATO military presence there.

Pretending that NATO isn’t hostile to Russia is also simply disconnected from reality. You need to connect your world view to reality.

[-] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also we have been punishing Cuba with an embargo which has crippled their economy ever since just because we can.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, the weapons are still in Cuba, thank god :) and Cuba has an air force, which I suppose was given/sold to Cuba by the USSR/China, so maybe the US can also give some F16 to Ukraine. The USSR also sent planes and soviet crews to fight the Americans in Vietnam, so there is precedent for all that.

NATO is hostile to russia's imperial ambitions and so are all of its neighbours.

[-] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What are you talking about? The Cuban missile crisis was resolved by the missiles being removed and the soviet military presence ended in Cuba.

You’re factually wrong when you seem to say the soviet missiles are still there. They were removed.

The US’s security interests demanded they were removed from the nearby Cuba, and US missiles that threatened the USSR were removed from Turkey.

Peace was achieved by withdrawing the military threat from each others borders.

Likewise peace in Ukraine can only be achieved if Russia doesn’t feel threatened by a NATO presence there.

It’s easy to understand.

[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago
[-] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Yes at one point Putin sought to join NATO and the idea didn’t gain traction.

I don’t understand how you feel this helps your argument.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Putin wanted in but NATO said no.... because the purpose of NATO is to subjugate and pillage Russia.

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Well, the weapons are still in Cuba

Cuba still has weapons at all, but the crisis was over the nuclear missiles, which were removed. It's a very direct comparison here.

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