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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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I have no love at all for most of the LW mods, and mostly don't go there. But I suspect that your comment was removed because it sounds unhinged and shouty, and is attempting in part to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you through sheer force of aggressiveness, rather than just citing why you think the story you're commenting under is wrong / why you think it's misinformation. It seems like anyone who wants to have a discussion with you from the opposing point of view is probably going to experience a lot more of the same, and so nothing productive will come of it.
I don't know if removing the comment entirely would be the right move, but it's not indicative of opening a constructive dialogue on the topic with people there some of who will surely disagree with you.
It wasn't removed for being shouty or aggressive, it was removed for "misinformation." If the mods don't like the tone, they should say so, and at least give me a chance to edit it. What they're saying instead is, "This is indisputably proven true, there is no conversation to be had about this, and anyone claiming otherwise is a bad actor," because that's what a removal for misinformation means. Of course, they don't have any evidence to back it up, because as I said, they don't believe in sourcing claims or basing beliefs on evidence.
Chipping in as a former mod. We get a lot of reports. At some point, huge long run on paragraphs like this will get skimmed over. We don't have the time or capacity to dissect every thesis that gets reported. If it throws up red flags (and this one throws up a lot), we make a judgement based on that. Sorry, but that's how modding works.
Also chiming in to say, if banning haphazardly is a consequence of not having enough mods, then maybe they should be getting more mods.
Speaking from experiences on !showsandmovies@lemm.ee and !football@lemmy.world , the vast majority of people aren't interested in moderating.
I left the call for mods post open on the first one for weeks, only got one volunteer after two months
Ye I know, but typically if you don't find mods like that, there's also not a lot of traffic either to justify not taking the time, no?
The of course doesn't take into account super-mods, i.e. people modding dozens or comms, but that's on them really.
!showsandmovies@lemm.ee has 2110 monthly active users, seems quite active to me.
Doesn't seem to have so much traffic that 4 mods can't deal with it.
We are 3, the two first accounts are the same person. Most of the time there aren't many reports, but then once in a while a "heated" topic comes up (usually wokism and representation in TV shows) and then you'll get a few due to bigotry.
I just don't know why people aren't as interested in shows as in movies. !movies@lemm.ee has 2780 monthly active users, and we have 7 mods there.
Also, besides the "dealing with the reports" aspects of being a mod, there is also a "building the community", and for that one I'm mostly alone. Again, a bit surprising seeing how popular that topic should be. On the other hand, !television@lemmy.world has no mods at all, so maybe it's just a trend for the whole topic.
I think it's just a lot to do with attention. I like shows more than movies lately, but I don't have time or inclining to sit and discuss them as well usually.
And ye, bootstrapping any comm on lemmy is fairly hard.
That could be it. Or than people want specific communities for each show rather than a generic one.
I used to mod r/Futurology, one of the default reddit subs. Hard to say how many actual users, but over 10M subscribed (inflated because we were a default sub). Even then we had trouble getting reliable mods who wouldn't drop out after a month.
Are you still a mod there? Could you promote !futurology@futurology.today as an alternative?
Futurology.today is run by the same team, we have tried promoting it and getting people to move, but haven't had much luck with the inertia.
Are you able to review and unsuspend accounts there? I got suspended 3 times in about 6 weeks, and the 3rd one is just permanent. I still don't get what I was suspended over. The team won't tell me, and they claim it's viewed by a human team, but I know it's not.
Only on .today if that's what you meant
Oh, no I meant reddit
That's sad to hear, thanks for trying
This wasn't a huge run on paragraph, that's just how things get displayed in the modlog.
Ah. Ignore above comment then.
I just read the comments there. The majority of the comments are agreeing with your viewpoint. Almost everyone thinks this news story is wrong, and they were all saying so. They just weren’t cocks about it.
You were moderated for being shouty and unpleasant. Now, you’re being shouty and unpleasant here, and constructing a fiction where everyone is crazy liberal bootlickers trying to silence your truth, when everyone is way ahead of you on that particular truth, waiting for you to realize that they also agree with you.
No, they were moderated for "misinformation", as it says right there