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‘People feel drained’: anti-Trump Americans face temptation to tune out
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And honestly the worst part is: where is the dem leadership right now? Where has Harris been since her defeat? People should have accepted blame for this historic loss and stepped down, but instead - nothing. What the hell is this?
They lost, what do you expect them to do? Foment an insurrection? The American people have spoken and they chose 4 years of a fascist, rapist, lying criminal for a president.
I expect them to still show leadership, to try and bring hope to their constituents - and to take responsibility for the election loss.
What kind of leader just up and leaves after a loss like this? Did Bernie just fuck off after everything that happened to him? No, he's still there, still trying to build support and help younger politicians follow in his footsteps. Harris should be doing that or should resign, not whatever she's doing now.
Why start now?
Even more, what incentive is there for them? They know they will get the votes, and donations, from the blue no matter who crowd.
They don't need to change
Just need to play them for absolute fools
And after this last election, it has become clear that they don't really care about the votes as long as they get the donations.
I mean would you care about the votes, specially post fact? The money is already there, and they are only humans.
Bernie is in a position where he actually does something. Vice President is a bench-warming position with no real power.
If everyone treated their job like Democrats do theirs, the world wouldn't work.
Harris isn't just the vice president, she was the presidential candidate. For fucks sake, she wanted to be the Democrats leader for the next couple of years! She has way more power and influence compared to Bernie.
I don't see how, since she's a failed candidate and the VP of a lame duck president. You're not wrong that she could at least make an attempt to have some sort of message of resistance, but even if she did it wouldn't have any practical effect. Milquetoast centrist is milquetoast.
I don't see how your position makes sense. Not only was there literally a $1.4bn dollar campaign promoting her over the last few months, she also dictated the current direction of the DNC based on her campaign policies and promises. She's VP to a government whose policies she largely supported in her campaign. There hasn't been any broad renouncement of her.
Besides Biden, who has anywhere close to her power, both in the party and in the public eye? She should be using all of the focus to promote and support new & fresh Democrats. You can't seriously try to tell me she has less power than Bernie.
The very very low bar that everyone should have for the Democrats right now is to expect them to be furiously working to win the House and the Senate in the next midterm election. Like balls to the wall, all out. Anything less is completely acquiescing to trumpism.
You want more? They should be strategizing how to flip state legislatures. They should be working on lower levers of government from the bottom up, to fight gerrymandering and electoral shenanigans.
And these are just the normie political stuff. I'm not even going to get into the grassroots organizing, movement building, leadership development, labour organizing etc.
Franklin did tell you, from the very start: "a republic if you can keep it". Do you want to keep it?
My two Canadian cents, take it or leave it.
the person to whom you replied was perfectly clear on this:
If Trump's a legitimate threat to democracy it would be unpatriotic for them not to do this.
Not only where are they, but who are they? Is Harris still relevant in politics? Pelosi? AOC? Bernie?
Who is running things and what is their plan?