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[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

Being a Reich Winger is incompatible with rational or thoughtful discussion.

Reich wing ideology boils down to subservience and deference to authority, not knowledge.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

You seem to have a very specific definition in mind. There's a lot more to the right wing than fascism.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

Reich Wing ideology, the entire thing, relies on subservience and deference to authority. The difference in the various flavors of it are just how much and who.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

OK, so you're just going to spout partisan talking points instead of having a productive conversation.

Have a wonderful day.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

Of course, discussing political ideology is "partisan"... Its exactly what we're talking about.

And no, they're not just talking points, it's literally how we describe the various systems of political ideology... Reich Wingers look to construct a society around control and subservience. And, like I said, the question of "who" to obey, and how strictly people are to be controlled are what differentiates the various Reich Wing ideologies.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Reich Wingers look to construct a society around control and subservience.

This is a talking point, and you're basically implying everyone on the right believes this, and that's patently false.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

That is literally what makes up right wing ideology... Prove me wrong. Because, yes, every Reich Winger thinks that some level of control over others is a requirement of society.

Control of women's bodies.

Control of immigrants.

Control of health care.

Control of religious views.

Control of other countries.

Show me a Reich Winger who doesn't believe that someone needs to control others, and I'll walk that back.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

First of all, I want to point out that I'm not registered Republican and haven't voted for a Republican for any executive position for nearly two decades (last time was McCain, though I would've voted for Romney had I voted in 2012). Also, I have voted Republican for other positions very rarely in the last decade or so. In 2020, I voted for Biden because I thought Trump legitimately had a chance of losing my state (still carried it by ~20%), and I voted mostly Democrats for legislative seats this time around because I'm pissed at the gerrymandering my state did recently.

With that out of the way:

Control of women’s bodies.

Not universal, and something like 36% believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

Control of immigrants.

Something like 15% believe immigration should increase, and 37% believe it should stay the same. Believing immigration should decrease is a minority opinion among Republicans.

Control of health care.

Not sure what you mean by that, Democrats also want to control health care, that's why the ACA exists (they want everyone enrolled in health insurance, which gives the government more control over health care).

If you can be more precise, I can look up some statistics.

Control of religious views.

About 41% of Republicans believe religious Republicans have too much control over the GOP, and about 27% of Republicans are unaffiliated with any particular religion, 13% are atheist, and 34% say "nothing in particular" (I guess that means areligious).

Control of other countries.

Trumpism is isolationist, which is the opposite of wanting to interfere w/ other countries. There are a lot of anti-Trump Republicans (in 2019, though they're probably not going to be as vocal this term.

So if you're looking for anti-interference Republicans, look no further than Trump. There are also plenty of anti-interventionist Republicans in the anti-Trump crowd as well.

So yeah, there's a bunch of stats for you. I'm also guessing we'll see those numbers go up quite a bit after Trump's term is up, because a lot of those answers are likely colored by recent rhetoric.

I could list specific politicians if that's what you're looking for, but I find that much less interesting than statistics.

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