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[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

How would having a more evil leader, one who hypothetically locks down freedom of speech and starts arresting people, make organizing easier?

Seems like that would make it harder to do.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago

I don't know how to explain to you that the issues we're facing are systemic and don't depend on the "right" individual being a leader.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

How did we get here? I never said we needed to have a "right" specific individual being a leader.

All I'm saying is that I believe that if I have a choice to organize a progressive movement under either 100% Hitler or 90% Hitler. I would choose 90% Hitler. I feel like I'm not alone in that.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

As I said: it's a systemic issue. I don't know how to explain that to you.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Which specific issue is systemic?

I'm confused because you keep on jumping around to different points, you argue against positions that I don't have, and you don't directly answer any of my follow-up questions.

If I wasn't sure that you honestly believe what you are saying, I would accuse you of intentionally muddying the water. This looks a lot like psyop stuff.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

The issue the meme is decrying: that the political landscape and discourse is shifting to the right.

How often do I need to repeat that I don't know how to explain it to you?

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I agree with that. I never disagreed with the meme.

It has never been my position that voting for the lesser evil will solve all of our problems or bring about a progressive government.

I have only ever argued that voting for the lesser evil will give the people who are trying to organize (us) a better environment for doing so. Voting for the lesser evil helps with the organization. It's weird to me that people are against voting for the lesser evil. I don't get it, I hope someone can explain it to me.

Can you please stop assuming what positions I have?

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