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"We are raising funds to support a critical legal defense in the fight against unchecked corporate power and a system that continues to favor the few over everyone else. This case isn't just about one individual—it's about challenging a status quo that protects the interest of the powerful at the expense of justice and fairness," read one of the fundraising pages that was quickly removed by GoFundMe.

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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 99 points 1 week ago

During the Great Depression, people were so angry at banks that they rooted for bank robbers. Things are so bad now that we're just straight up rooting for cold-blooded executions. Censoring people's online activities won't make this anger go away. The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don't want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago

Billionaires deserve to live in fear.

[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

No they don't.

Deserve to live I mean.

I will not elaborate further.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Nah they deserve to live, as a treaf. Plus I want to see what happens to person when you pour lemon juice into their open chest cavity while theyre awake.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Billionaires should not exist. Tax them out of existence. If they don’t exist, they won’t be vigilante targets.

[-] mokus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

It shouldn’t just be a cap either. Net worth topping $1B should just be a reset button. Automatic bankruptcy. It should be something to actively fear and avoid, not just a score to max out.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, billionaires! We’re just trying to help you!

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

"In fear" are the key words here.

If I stole hundreds of dollars from people in my town and my name was public information, I'd be scared shitless.

Billionaires steal millions and not just in dollars. The way I see it, Luigi took out a serial killer, not a businessman.

I would like to remind everyone that while I do wish the worst for billionaires, I do not legally condone violence of any kind. I will however smile if I hear about bad things happening to bad people.

[-] excral@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago

The genies out of the bottle now, and if billionaires don't want any more dead CEOs, there will need to be fundamental, radical changes to our society.

I don't expect radical changes. I expect them to make the minimal concessions they believe to be enough to make people just happy enough to not depose more CEOs

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I actually don't expect CEOs and billionaires to make any concessions. Honestly, this is how I imagine the next few years going:

Right now, billionaires are waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans want them dead. CEOs will start beefing up security while politicians and pundits try to spin this, and they'll all hope this was a one-off. It won't be. Sure, there probably won't be another assassin who escapes and leads police on a five day manhunt, but there will surely be a guy with an AR-15 who takes out billionaire or CEO before getting gunned down himself by cops or private security.

Billionaires will start lobbying for protections from Congress, probably through special treatment from federal law enforcement and a push for gun control. This will only further enrage the public, who have faced mass shootings in schools and churches without any response. On top of that, the Trump administration is gearing up for an era of naked corruption, which is going to make the billionaire class even less popular

All in all, I think we're heading towards a period of political instability and violence. Maybe it will end with public rage being channeled into a series of reforms like FDR managed with the New Deal. Maybe we'll devolve even further into oligarchy and authoritarianism as American society collapses. Either way, I think there will be radical change.

Anyway, that's my theory. Maybe I'm wrong, and this will be a blip, but I don't think so. This feels like a very different, very significant moment.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

That'd still be helpful, last time they gave us "Just enough to put down the pitchforks."

That was the "New Deal"

[-] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Like that's ever gonna happen. There are and will always be boot lickers that'll do anything for money.

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

It's a real shame they all end up in congress too.

[-] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They get put there don't just end in a position of power

[-] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reddit just banned me for saying I support Luigi in his monster slaying quest and hope there’s more heroes out there.

Say, what’s the Lemmy policy on being real? I don’t really care. I’ll say it in person as well as any online platform, and if I’m banned from them all then I’ll just read books and shit.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago

It depends on the instance. I just left Lemmy.World because of their euro- centric pro-censorship stance of educating people on the existence and explanation of jury nullification.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 week ago

Attention all Luigi supporters!

Lemmy.world's policy is to remove comments and posts that advocate for violence. And imprisonment is a violent act. If you see a post on lemmy.world advocating for Luigi's imprisonment, report it and leave a comment explaining how it advocates for violence.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

That's some old bullshit

[-] Vanix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure it's a by-server or by-community basis, but I've seen nothing but support for him on here

[-] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 week ago

There are various actors trying to least descalate the support and others who painted him as murder esp starting today.

They are mirroring fake news arguments to split the support. Their play here depends on their ability to do so.

Fever has died down too.

He is already cooked from their perspective but I still don't buy he was in fact the guy who pulled the trigger

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I've seen some people try to say he was a Far-Right loon who had a shrine to the messiah himself, Jordan Peterson.

I saw a laughably bad article on MSN that basically said "Won't someone think of the billionaires and ban video games before someone kills again? This guy played Among Us ya know!"

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Depends on the instance, I hear LemmyWorld doesn't really like it.

[-] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I mean that’s literally a call to violence. Fuck Reddit but this is not an example of them being terrible. You’re straight up asking for bans with that kind of comment.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Like how banks became institutions dedicated to the public good following the Depression?

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

More like how FDR used the banks' need for government assistance to force regulation on them through the 1933 Banking Act and the Glass-Steagall Act.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The Glass-Steagall Act that was repealed and now banks are more out-of-control than ever?

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yes. A decade after it was repealed, we had the largest financial collapse since it was enacted, and now we're dealing with higher income inequality than we had during the Gilded Age. What part of this is meant to invalidate my point?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm refuting the idea that fanservice leads to lasting institutional change.

The fact that we're in the shitter because the change didn't stick kinda proves my point.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Well, A) the point isn't that, "fan service," created this change. It's that people's willingness to side with outlaws over institutions is a good barometer of public anger, and based on the United Healthcare killing, people are fucking pissed. B) FDR passed banking reform and social welfare programs that created decades of economic stability and only lost their efficacy after half a century of conservative attacks chipped away at them. I'm not sure why you think a historical example of the sort of fundamental, radical change in talking about doesn't count just because the Baby Boomers fucked it all up.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, proof that reforming capitalism is wasted effort. You can only delay end stage capitalism reforms, not prevent it.

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