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EDIT: Another interpretation of the statement suggests they take responsibility for the event by proxy of deterring said aircraft which was then targeted by friendly air defences.

EDIT II: Prev. statements by Houthis suggest they had formulated new tactics to tail fighter craft with drones/missiles a while back so probably more likely that had something to do with it.

Ansarollah have historically followed up with evidence of such claims against UAE/Saudi aircraft of the same generation. They definitely have the capability, but no hard evidence yet.

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[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago

Fourth, the USS Harry S. Truman, after being subjected to multiple attacks from the missile force, naval forces, and air force, withdrew from its previous location in the Red Sea towards the northern waters.

More impressive is they made a carrier retreat.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 days ago

The fact they lost a single plane is beyond the level of acceptable losses for the Americans. Vietnam syndrome has utterly shattered the resolve of the average American warship to the point where I'm not surprised they're retreating at the tiniest amount of resistance.

Kissinger ironically was very very correct when he said:

The conventional army loses if it does not win. The guerrilla wins if he does not lose.

And in the red sea, the conventional navy is NOT winning.

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

I'm sorry, but no. The US has lost planes before and even more helicopters in the post-USSR era. The F-18 loss can and already has been written off. The only time the loss of an aircraft has deterred the US was Mogadishu and there's a lot more on the line now.

If Ansarallah had gotten one of the (allegedly) stealth F-22 or F-35 that would be a massive embarrassment but even then I don't think the US would back down. Its likely that they are deliberately not flying any of those newer aircraft near Yemen for that reason.

On the otherhand, no one has attacked a US aircraft carrier since WWII (afaik) and the only post-USSR attack on a ship is the Cole which was in harbor. The US is extremely proud of their surface fleet especially their carriers. Proving that "5 acres of sovereign US soil" can be forced to retreat is a huge win.

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