706
Trash
(vegantheoryclub.org)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 29 Dec 2024
706 points (88.0% liked)
Memes
46042 readers
1509 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
That's not a graph of police brutality, that is a graph of killings by gunshot wounds from police.
Now let's find out how many people are black out of the US population and figure out why the numbers you posted is a problem.
https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/data/redistricting-supplementary-tables/redistricting-supplementary-table-package.pdf
Fair enough. I guess my overarching point is that making generalizing statements like "all cops are racist" or "the victims of cops can't stop being black" are harmful to the discussion considering there are also non-black victims of police brutality.
I feel it's better to say that there's an issue with racism within the police force that needs a solution (which is one of the main points of BLM) rather than resorting to lazy slogans like ACAB that do nothing to further the discussion. The very definition of slacktivism
The problem is you have no way of knowing, and the consequences of interacting with a cop are frequently death or life altering injury. As a result you have to treat every interaction as of you are dealing with a racist murderer who faces no consequences.
So doing what any normal and intelligent individual would do when faced with interacting with cops? That's not the ACAB I'm used to seeing being paraded on here.
The point is that cops absolutely have the power to kick out the bastards from the force (they have strong unions and dictate their working conditions) and actively choose not to. They are all complicit and know what they signed up for.
Fair enough
True for all 17k policing agencies in the US?
If it’s true for only 16.999k of those agencies, then “Policing Enables Bastards” works w/o any sithlike absolutes :)
That's not normal outside of USA. You're crazy if you think it is.
This very well may be Stockholm syndrome, or something close to it.
Just because you know what to do to mitigate your chances of being shot doesn't mean that that behavior isn't still shitty. Look into how police are trained. They're trained like the military, only the enemy is civilians.
While people might actually say out loud that all cops are racist, what they actually mean is that the system is racist. Not all cops are racist, but they participate in a racist system. That makes them bastards.
Id say that's pretty bastard-like myself.
Id say that's definitely one of the core issues, but also the police's core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I'll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they've joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.
This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You'd have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.
I'd prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.
That's what we're talking about though. What they're doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don't need to be escalated, they're prone to fear because it's how they're trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.
No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You're trading false security for your rights.