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My treats are not propaganda! (vegantheoryclub.org)
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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'd define propaganda as misconstruing the truth towards political ends. If it's commercial ends rather than political, it's false advertising. If it's not misconstruing, then it's advertising or public communications. Just to set a baseline.

I can't find what your sources are defining as propaganda from a brief look, let's compare to my definition.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

it doesn't need to be misconstrued. the best propaganda imho is totally true and in context. spreading it with some kind of political goal is still propaganda.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Cool, I wouldn't call that propaganda, but we can work with that.

Do the Captain America movies have an irl political goal? What would it be?

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I haven't seen them, but I do know they work with the pentagon, so my guess is they aim to legitimize American hegemony and military spending

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I have seen them, and the government is the bad guy, with the overreach of public surveillance being major topic. You'll need to be more specific, but that would probably entail watching them.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I have no interest though. do you have a point?

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

It doesn't seem to fit with the criteria of being for political ends, so it wouldn't be propaganda.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

not having seen it, I obviously can't tell you what is messages are.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So I don't think it should be on this list, and I guess you don't disagree.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I'm confident it is propaganda, but not having seen it, I don't know what politics it is pushing.

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