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[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Honestly, he's not wrong, it does look cool and fun. I wish there were non-religious secret sects.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I think that any adult secret society is either going to be lame and boring, or it quickly escalates into a cult, gang, cartel, racket, or terrorist organization, depending on the group's intentions.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

You're just making it sound cooler

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well what things can a group of adults really do that are both not lame and boring, and also not illegal

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In high school we started a secret order, made a logo and symbols that we printed into stickers and would hide around the school in weird hidden places, even published a fake newspaper that we left around referencing it's mythology and origins.

About 4 years after we all graduated I heard that apparently someone replaced the national anthem tape with one repeating the order's phrases and terms.

My god I hope that train keeps running away.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

For only checks again $44.99 USD you can become a doktor in the Church of the Subgenius.

https://www.subgenius.com/scatalog/membership.htm

[-] nailingjello@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If I recall, Masons don't require you to worship any specific God, just believe in a higher power or something like that.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure that’s AA, not the Masons.

/s

[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

While yes, the unfortunate thing is that it's pretty christian dominant and my experience has been that don't appreciate agnostics and pagans in there midsts.

[-] TurtleOnASkateboard@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

my experience has been that don’t appreciate agnostics and pagans in there midsts.

my experience is contrary to this. Few people really believe in religion in 2024, it's not like the pious times in which the rites originated.

In practice, you don't have to believe in god to be a mason. Although that rule is still around.

[-] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Every lodge is different. Visitors from one lodge to another were once appalled by the more relaxed atmosphere of another. Even in a society of very well documented and studied 'rules' and practices can have widely different cultures depending on the town and people. Not all lodges are created equal.

[-] vala@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Ehh, Freemasons are probably not religious in the sense you think they are. They all believe in god but are not necessarily of the same religious background.

I had a buddy who was in it. The background checks they do are comparable to getting a security clearance, and he said you'd get tossed out if you weren't religious.

[-] TurtleOnASkateboard@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

I passed the background checks and I am just a turtle on a skateboard.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

This checks out.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Background check?! BACKGROUND CHECK?!

My dad was a Freemason, and I went through the first initiation and was working on the second but decided I didn’t want to continue despite enjoying my teen years in DeMolay. There was no fucking background check. lol! Hell, to join you just need to ask a Freemason - they don’t really ask you.

You have a Freemason who can vouch for your character as kind of a “sponsor” so maybe THAT is the background check but you don’t fill out any forms or anything that get submitted to the government.

Also, they use God in their words but you don’t have to believe in God. I dunno, maybe Nevada lodges have different rules? I doubt it.

[-] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The background check is no more than when applying to a job, they just check to see if you have a criminal record. They make a home visit to explain themselves to your family and to make sure your personal life doesn't look like à mess, ie your not living like a piece of shit.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

From what I understand, intensity will vary from chapter to chapter. A belief in God is a requirement, but there can be some wiggle room on exactly what that means.

Looked into it because it sounded cool, attending some sort of group thing would probably be a good idea for me, and I find ritual fascinating. Shit gets expensive, though.

Edit: Who am I kidding, it's mostly because I want my wallet contents to sound like Grandpa Simpson's

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 6 months ago

Can you pass the background checks if you're a pagan?

[-] darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago

You have to believe in a "supreme being"

[-] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

How do you know there isn't if they're secret?

[-] Bacano@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Be the chage you want to see ✨✨

(I'll join your quirky mysterious lodge)

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Honestly, same.

Secret Order of the Lemmings? Can we have a sh.it.head rite?

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

There's always the Possum Lodge.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati

(When all else fails, play dead)

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