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Ready player one.

That has to be one of the cringiest movies I've seen, is tries so hard, too hard with it's "WE LOVE YOU NERD, YOU'RE SO COOL FOR PLAYING GAMES AND GETTING THIS 80S REFERENCE" message and the whole "corporation bad, the people good" narrative seems written for toddlers... The fan service feels cheap and adds nothing to the story.

Finally, they trying to make the people believe that very attractive girl with a barely visible red tint spot on her face is "ugly"... Like wtf?

Yet it received decent reviews plus being one of the most successful movies of that year.

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

James Cameron’s Avatar series.

Then again… Does anyone actually like it? It seems to have all this online hype when it’s such a boring visual spectacle.

It’s like the opposite of the other Avatar franchise, which wasn’t a commercial hit, and seems less popular on paper, but seems to have a massive cultural impact.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I liked the first one!on acid. On a 3D TV. I don’t see myself ever watching the second.

[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

My understanding of most people's opinion is that the visuals are stunning but otherwise whatever. It's definitely mine. Avatar 2 has one of the worst written and worst paced stories I have seen in a long time. But it's still almost worth the watch solely to admire the visuals that over-shadow other movies by a mile.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago

I have never seen it. I got wind of the similarities between the American Indian Wars and Dances With Wolves/Ferngully and decided that my time and money were better spent elsewhere. I don't need another reminder of the pain it is to be Lakota and look into the past.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The funny thing is James Cameron acts like the movie and message are so profound.

[-] Azal@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

Honestly at this point I think he's saying whatever he can to continue funding his submarine hobby.

[-] keyez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

He's not completely wrong, sure the story has been done a ton because it's a solid and engaging tale to learn about a new world/culture. Also the technological portion of the movie used several new methods and cameras for the first time in a theater and introduced so many methods that are in use today.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

the worldbuilding is what's interesting in Avatar, imho. The visuals support that. Story wise it doesn't do a good job of being surprising

[-] Azal@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

See, I'm baffled by this one, now I've only seen the first movie so maybe there's something in the second I don't know about in world building. But the first, the world building was to me... meh? Okay, the alien planet was interesting, they have a culture, they seemed to do a fine job with that, cool. But the story makes humanity so blitheringly stupid that I cannot comprehend the worldbuilding beyond "We need some Captain Planet level villains." They're after unobtanium, a mineral that has properties for anti-gravity and wrecking havok on radar. Soooooo.... We're going to work hard on inserting someone to convince the locals to dig up under the religious tree for the major vein of it instead of the MULTIPLE floating mountains all over the place.

Which then when the military decides to do its thing, this spacefaring species uses glorified helicopters that fly lower and slower than modern military aircraft, again through the mountains of unobtainium in a low altitude approach for a strike operation that only makes sense if the enemy has radar... which the aliens definitely did not. I seriously might have missed something but I couldn't get past humanity in it was just carrying the idiot ball throughout the movie.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Yea all that to me belongs to script. And I agree it's not very good. When I say worldbuilding, I'm talking about the ecosystem and its interconnectedness. It does a good job of mirroring the Earth's and I consider it to be a proper -although indirect- awakening to the beauty of terrestrial biology.

[-] hywoid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

What is that other Avatar franchise? I watched the first movie when I was just a kid so my opinions highly influenced by my emotions. I don’t think it is the best sci-fi movie out there but I really like Avatar (2009).

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Avatar the Last Airbender, and the Legend of Korra.

The animation, specifically. The Netflix series is OK, and there is absolutely no movie adaptation.

Funny enough, I watched them when I was like 19, but Korra, Zuko and Iroh are still three of my favorite characters in anything ever. I remember it vividly, where I can't remember a single line from the James Cameron Avatar (which I watched as a teen when it came out).

[-] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Thank you for making it clear that there's no movie. There's a lot of misinformation on the internet and some people happen to think that there is one.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There is no movie in Ba Sing Se.

Here, we are safe. Here, we are free.

[-] Blubber28@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I believe the impact was mostly to do with the visuals. And, honestly, that is very fair. While it is inctedibly dull and cringe story-wise, the visuals are phenominal, especially since the movie is now already 15 years old.

I feel the same way about Jurassic Park in that sense, though it is much less cringe than Avatar (but still pretty basic story-wise).

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But the original Jurassic Park was fun. The writing was sharp and memorable, the cast charismatic, even if the plot is not that important (which is fine).

I did love JC Avatar's alien flora and fauna, and some small details like the realistic spaceship, but I guess it feels much less exciting in hindsight without anything to "attach" it to.

And again... the IP its name collides with is nothing to sneeze at, visually. You can pause it almost anywhere, even in "mundane" scenes, and get gorgeous fantasy shots and incredible music:

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