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My treats are not propaganda! (vegantheoryclub.org)

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Where exactly does a Captain America comic argue for creating more super soldiers?

What the fuck are you even talking about. Completely incoherent.

You think the characters backstory overrules everything he says or does?

You posted a speech and asked if it sounded like nazi propaganda. Now you want me to care about your cartoon lore? Are you here to have an adult conversation or do you want to play with dolls?

You said I’ve done “zero reading” but you didn’t even respond to the comic panel I posted

Read the fucking link I gave you and you'll find the response you asked for. Why do you think I bothered linking it to you? Do you need everything spoonfed? It's like a page and a half. Fucking Christ.

[-] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Did you even read your own link?

"Disagreement is treason" – fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith

I posted an exact panel from the source material showing you the character standing against one of the principles of fascism, and you still called it Nazi propaganda? Maybe you should start using your brain instead of calling everything you don't like Nazi propaganda.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago

If you actually read it instead of just looking for a facile 'own' to mine from it, you'd have noticed a lot of the points were contradictory to each other and that there are two or three points that directly apply to super hero comics and that speech in particular.

Guy in a thread where the topic is poptarts: "You just say everything you don't like is poptarts!"

[-] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I believe media like super hero comics can be used to examine difficult topics like facism. That does not make the entire medium Nazi propaganda. For example Capitan America's backstory is clearly an allegory for America hiring German scientists after the war.

Guy in a thread where the topic is poptarts: “You just say everything you don’t like is poptarts!”

I am specifically arguing that the character Captian America is not inherently fascist. You keep asserting he is without providing any examples. All while throwing in ridiculous strawman arguments.

If you believe all super hero comics are inherently fascist, I'm not sure this is a productive conversation.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago

I honestly hope you're fucking with me.

"Captain America is a perfect example of comics not being fascist propaganda because his story is about that time we sheltered nazi war criminals"

If you believe all super hero comics are inherently fascist, I’m not sure this is a productive conversation.

You're an idiot that dismisses things offhand and shuts your brain down. No shit this isn't a productive conversation. Super hero comics are the distilled essence of great man theory. So now you have received your shutdown signal.