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Guys, at this rate I don't think the revolution's going to happen anytime soon.

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[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

From "leftist" to democrat real quick there mate.

And yes, platforming people who think trans don't deserve rights is harmful and the left rightfully should criticise it

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

I don't understand this recent claim that the left and Democrats aren't the same thing.

Progressives, secularists and liberals have always been lumped into "left" and those people overwhelmingly overlap with what the Democrats claim to be all about.

The term "left" and "Democrat" are basically interchangeable for the most part.

Kinda like how Conservative/Republican/right have been pretty much interchangeable for a long time now.

As far as I can tell the only difference is the right doesn't seem to care as much about labels and the left gets super upset when they aren't labeled exactly right at all times.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I'm a communist and not from the US, saying that the democrats are at the left is laughable

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

Ohhhhh you're a communist. No wonder you don't understand anything. Your brain is completely void of logical thought.

Well you have fun with that. I won't be responding to you after this message. While I am generally open to discussing most things I have learned that trying to have a real conversation with self described communists on the Internet is a complete waste of time.

Have a good day.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Lmao get rekt

[-] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

The term "left" and "Democrat" are basically interchangeable for the most part.

Only if you're dumb and American. Democrats are right wing. Exclusively.

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

....do you even know where the term left and right wing started??? The Democratic party definitely has more overlap with the left than the right.

I'm curious what alternate reality definition you're using though. Please explain your thoughts process. Show your work.

[-] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Supports capitalism over socialism.
Supports imperialist projects to dominate the global south and destabilize competitors.
Supports more funding to police.
Rejects single payer health care.
Rejects nationalizing oil and gas industries.
Rejects any form of trust busting.
Rejects any measures to reign in corruption, lobbying, or corporate influence.

I could go on all day.

The only meaningful difference is that Democrats hate gays slightly less and try to avoid using the n word in public.

I'd ask you for math, but I'm just going to spend an hour debunking Washington Post links claiming dems want things they never bothered to try implementing.

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I'm just gonna leave this here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum#:~:text=The%20terms%20right%20and%20left,various%20legislative%20bodies%20of%20France.

To 99% of the population of you say "left" they will think Democrats and if you say "right" they will think Republicans. I'm not saying those definitions are strictly accurate, but that is how most people would lump those things.

I do not differentiate left/liberal/Democrats the same exact way I don't differentiate conservatives/Republicans/right. Those groups share enough overlap that unless you're specifically talking about a very slim slice of one of those sub groups you can generally use any of them to refer to the same groups interchangeably.