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Proton is dead (for me). Let's collect and discuss alternatives! ✊🛡 (lemmy.world)

submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 25 points 23 hours ago

I don’t use proton, but I would be grateful if you could share a link on how Proton sided with fascists.

Also, I use Mullvad for VPN and I host my own email

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 22 hours ago

They didn't exactly "side with fascists", but Andy Yen, one of the board members on the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG, has very bad takes on politics, and just has a right-wing "Libertarian" vibe.

https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660 (https://archive.is/l1WYU)

https://x.com/andyyen/status/1812442643726537182 (https://archive.is/ADc8C)

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 21 points 22 hours ago

Huh, I wasn’t very concerned with your links… but I googled and found out Andy Yen is the founder. That’s alarming

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

True, but Tim Brenners-Lee is also on the board, and he historically has generally good takes on tech and politics.

People are often unwilling to go against the positions of the guy who created the World Wide Web.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

If his presence at proton is the old thing holding back the stupid, then it isn't as good a company as we has been thinking.

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