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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 119 points 2 months ago

No it hasn't. Back this claim up with some evidence

[-] Xamrica@lemmy.dbzer0.com 118 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't call it "writing on the wall," but they have done some not-so-good things over the last few years:

  1. Handing over data for their email services (which was legally required) (ref).
  2. Releasing a Bitcoin wallet. The problem for me is that Bitcoin is inherently not private.
  3. Lying in marketing. Proton claims "no data or speed limits" for their free VPN (ref), which is just plain wrong. If you download a few gigs, it will slow you down to a few Mbit (if I remember correctly). I even contacted their support about this, and they just said, "They are balancing the servers for the free VPN." But then why was it fast in the beginning, and if I reconnected to the same server, would it be fast again. Just to be clear: I have no problem with the speed limit/balancing itself, just that they are lying about it.
  4. Proton incentivizing free email accounts to connect to a Gmail account to get 500 MB more storage. (You need to go through the "tutorial" steps to get the 500 MB extra, and one of them is to have a Google Mail account send all their emails to your new Proton inbox.)

This is why I personally decided against Proton.

[-] Stowaway@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

What did you go with out of curiosity?

[-] Xamrica@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Drive - Selfhosted Nextcloud

Email - Posteo/Tuta

VPN - Cryptostorm (IVPN/Mullvad are more user friendly)

Passwords - Keepass (Sync over my Nextcloud.)

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