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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Regressive tax. Yet another kick in the face of the lower class. Why not a progressive tax based on personal income? It works pretty well for speeding tickets in northern Europe.

[-] weLookAbove@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I'm all for reducing traffic, but yeah, how is this not at least partially regressive? Folks who can only afford to live in New Jersey but then have to work in NYC now have yet another new expense.

But maybe I'm not aware of just how ubiquitous subway stations are in New Jersey that go into NYC. Would it be an easy transition?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It's my understanding that poor people in NYC already take public transit. It's just the rich people who drive.

Besides, less traffic in NYC probably means cheaper parking, so people who have to drive will probably see their cost unchanged.

[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That's not quite true https://www.cssny.org/news/entry/congestion-pricing-outer-borough-new-yorkers-poverty-data-analysis

There is a small percentage that are poor and will suffer more due to being out priced out of transit areas

[-] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

We can't hold every type of tax-incentive based progress hostage because our culture won't tolerate day-fines or other income-scaled penalties. I mean we could, but it wouldn't make sense. This is a good program and it has an option for low income people to pay less. Furthermore we can always funnel money from rich to poor in other ways (e.g. through unrelated).

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

and it has an option for low income people to pay less.

You've never been poor have you. Its an extra 300 bucks taken away for no benefit, assuming they qualify for the low income benefit, and its 400 fliushed down the tubes if they dont.

[-] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe if you are that poor don't pilot your personal vehicle into the congested parts of Manhattan, where you pay for parking on top of the general costs of your car such as insurance and fuel.

Take the subway like me and a million others.

Remind me your grand plan to institute day fines again?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Maybe if you are that poor don’t pilot your personal vehicle

And there it is. That privilege. "if you're that poor".

Remind me your grand plan to institute day fines again?

Progressive tax on a scarce resource based on income. Complete exemptions for disabled. Better rates for working poor than 25% off.

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