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The sequence of events as far as I can recall:

  • Trump promised to ban TikTok
  • TikTok was slated to be "banned" in the twilight of Biden's term
  • Trump says he'd give it 90 days to make a decision
  • Biden decides not to ban it, handing it off to Trump
  • TikTok goes dark
  • It returns, but if you search for something anti-Trump in the United States, you can't find it
  • Using a VPN will give you that content
  • Various news outlets are now calling it Trump's "Propaganda Arm"

What the fuck is going on? From a political or technological standpoint.

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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 61 points 7 hours ago

i can understand your confusion: actions speak louder than words; so break it down based on what they did (not what they said) to make it make sense:

  1. trump tries to ban tiktok and fails
  2. biden, democrats & republicans try to ban tiktok and they succeed
  3. tiktok goes dark because it is banned
  4. trump promises to issue an executive order to save tiktok and follows through
  5. tiktok is back, but now has to depend on trump for its survival so it'll do whatever trump wants
[-] niucllos@lemm.ee 50 points 7 hours ago

Except it went dark before the law had a chance to be enforced, and was back up before trump was ever in office and able to use executive orders. So points 3 and 4 have nothing to do with the actual law and are decisions completely from within tiktok

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 33 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Biden also announced he wasn't enforcing the law. The TikTok operators saw the writing on the wall and realized they need to bend the knee to Trump.

Don't get too hung up on specific dates. Laws are not some physical law like gravity that are present and universal. They exist within a fuzzy context of enforcement and interpretation.

Biden made clear he wasn't going to enforce the law. Trump made clear he was going to make a decision based on how well Tiktok flattered and bribed him. So that's exactly what they've done.

[-] Gayhitler@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 hours ago

It went dark after the judicial review process found that the law was constitutional.

The important thing to recognize is that the site stopped operating in the us (which it said it would do in reaction to this decision) after it was clear that it would definitely be violating a law with explicit consequences if it continued.

One unremarked-upon aspect of the events between Saturday and Sunday was the arson of a representative’s office in retribution for the ban.

Combined with the crappy algorithm after the shutdown (indicates they gotta actually rebuild all the recommendations), it’s likely that the company shut the site down to be in compliance, intending to go back up if possible once the law was reversed or the new administration was in power, and was offered assurances against legal action and protection against the law after the representatives office was set on fire.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

and only one of the app stores brought back tiktok despite trump's executive order saying that it's okay now.

when it comes to profits & finance, they're very easily spooked and will go out of their way to ensure that they don't lose $$$; points 3 & 4 are in service to $$$ based on how they interpet the law, just like the app stores.

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