How native Hawaiians feel about the occupation regime (twitter.com)

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[-] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

True, just clarifying the best case scenario. Did the Hawaiian people recently vote to leave the union that I am unaware of?

[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

When did they vote to join? They fought pretty hard to keep their rightfully elected government.

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

in 1959, with a 93%+ majority:

Hawaii—a U.S. territory since 1898—became the 50th state in August, 1959, following a referendum in Hawaii in which more than 93% of the voters approved the proposition that the territory should be admitted as a state.

There were many Hawaiian petitions for statehood during the first half of the 20th century. The voters wished to participate directly in electing their own governor and to have a full voice in national debates and elections that affected their lives. The voters also felt that statehood was warranted because they had demonstrated their loyalty—no matter what their ethnic background—to the U.S. to the fullest extent during World War II.

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On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of Hawaiʻi to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood and 5.7% opposed it. The referendum asked voters to choose between accepting the Act and remaining a U.S. territory. The United Nations' Special Committee on Decolonization later removed Hawaiʻi from its list of non-self-governing territories.

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[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I think it's more than a little dishonest to say that the native Hawaiians voted for this. At the time of this referendum, they composed about 15% of the population and their culture and identity had been suppressed for generations.

The US government even admitted in 1993 that the native people never agreed to this.

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it’s more than a little dishonest to say that the native Hawaiians voted for this.

almost as dishonest as claiming is said something I didn’t and then moving the goalposts to win an argument…

At the time of this referendum, they composed about 15% of the population and their culture and identity had been suppressed for generations.

irrelevant. sad, but irrelevant. thy got to vote, just like anyone else, and, even by your numbers, 2/3 of THAT population voted for statehood.

The US government even admitted in 1993 that the native people never agreed to this.

that’s not what that says, but it’s nice to know how easy it is for you to lie to try to get ahead in an argument. “winning” online debates must be very important for you.

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Swarming lands with your settlers and then claiming b-but they muh voted for it, is peak lib cracker imperialism. The french did the same in New Caledonia.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Don't forget about saying the settlers have a legitimate say on what happens to Hawaii.

[-] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Swarming lands with your settlers and then claiming b-but they muh voted for it, is peak lib cracker imperialism. The french did the same in New Caledonia.

so, when you can’t argue with facts, you rest to redefining words, personal insults, and racist slurs.

classy

[-] Sinister@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I didn’t argue with you, I made clear statements about your nature and your character. Its up to you to change that and if you refuse, well thats just proves me right in the end.