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How do we know the employee wasn't toxic?
Has any other employees come forward. I hate exploitive work places but I'm skeptical about these public mud flinging things now. Its like there's a script they all use when let go.
Nobody knows anything but the people directly involved.
However the allegations sound too much like what other women deal with in shitty, toxic techbro spaces, and it sounds too much like the kind of corporate culture that would put out bullshit "test" numbers, wave off conflicts of interest, and callously torpedo a startup to chase dollars and ego.
Other employees have, the employee handbook was leaked, and before GN did his video that started all this he also did a video where he interviewed LMG employees.
GN did not interview LMG employees.
I checked and can confirm, I can't see any interviews of LMG employees in the last few months and he explicitly states that he did not reach out to anyone from LMG for comment in his latest video.
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Yep, he uses the clip that LMG released about interviewing their employees on how it's like to work there.
I think if you want to cut thru it all, take her direct quotes, the actual events as factual occurrences and draw your conclusions. Then all the colour, like the quote you posted, or her feelings on how she was treated with a grain of salt as perhaps it was just really a bad fit. And someone with a different mindset might not have felt as hurt or attacked. But that is more emotional and some of that is still on the person feeling it (and how strongly).
It 100% sounds like the dynamic was off and Linus was too stupid to see it. Which honestly tracks. Not saying he’s also not a POS (just definitely dumb).
With all that said, the few quotes she posted from them and the events she laid out definitely wreaked of garage startup nonsense. Which is always comical when paired with the air of professionalism when they try to spin the event during crisis mode (as evidence by their absurd code of conduct).
Definitely two sides to the story so the best approach is not to take everything at face value and pre-judge the situation. People should remember how reddit detectives "found" the Boston bomber and how that all turned out for everyone.
LMG needs to tell their side of the story and until then I'll keep the guillotine at home
Personally I walk my guillotine every day. It’s good for their constitution.
What fucking two sides to sexual harassment in a workplace?
What possibly can they say?
'Yes, she is correct, we are sorry'?
And the same people who spew this bullshit also add a little 'why did she wait until now?'.
As if the reaction is not the immediate answer.
The two sides are:
These are allegations so until there's actual evidence (short of taking what she's saying at face value) the correct response is to wait and see, not reach for pitchforks like Reddit and Twitter have a habit of doing
Again - what evidence do you want to see?
Videos? Audio tapes? Confessions from others?
And if nothing like that emerges, will you call her a liar? Simply because even if there was such evidence, it's most likely not in her possession?
No its sexism, look at the downvotes. They decide.
/s
Her experiences are similar to other workplaces I've been at. Even if she's toxic as you are suggesting, it sounds like there is an extremely rotten company culture.
Can't ask that stuff on here mate, this thread is for shitting on Linus and taking Madisons words at face value. I'm not about to lick LMG's asshole, but you'd think if this were an endemic culture issue that there would be several reports from previous employees (especially if the behavior is as abhorrent as she alleges)
Someone has to be the first person to report something.
I'm looking at the OP getting 100 downvotes for asking a question, lol. :)
If it's one topic you can't say anything about here on Lemmy it's this one, appearently.