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Trump Asks Congress To Approve $1 Billion Arms Transfer to Israel (news.antiwar.com)

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Israeli officials suggested that the increased military aid was part of a deal to get Netanyahu to agree to the Gaza ceasefire deal. Trump’s envoy for the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, has said he’s pushing for the full implementation of the agreement, but the ceasefire is very fragile as Netanyahu doesn’t want to implement the second phase.

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[-] M1ch431@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just curious, if Kamala did the same arms transfer shortly after getting elected; how would you respond or what would you do?

Would you assure others that she is working tirelessly on a ceasefire despite her vow to always give them the ability to defend themselves?

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[+] takeda@lemm.ee -11 points 2 weeks ago

What if?

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-gaza-israel-netanyahu-dad5fd3715f35e8311bd4039aeff8173

We only know that Bibi wanted trump to win.

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[-] M1ch431@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm asking out of genuine curiosity, what are they doing besides shaming others? What's done is done - we are here now.

If they had constructive or productive intentions it could apply to the current moment even with Trump in office.

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[+] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -17 points 2 weeks ago

As I have said before Israel was irrelevant to the election as neither candidate was going to act differently. It was only used as a weapon by conservatives to strip votes from Harris.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

If genocide isn't negotiable for your party, maybe you should find a new one.

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[+] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -7 points 2 weeks ago

I hate it, but it's a two party system. You have to pick one.

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

In that case, if genocide is a non-negotiable certainty of American policy, then the lesser evil choice is whichever party will collapse the USA fastest.

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[+] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -9 points 2 weeks ago

Nice of you to be so willing to sacrifice all the lives that such a collapse would cost

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, you sure abandoned lesser-evilism quickly when you could be on the receiving end.

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[+] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -7 points 2 weeks ago

Accelerationism is NOT the lesser evil. It's lunacy.

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Aww, poor baby. You were willing to write off millions of Palestinians as necessary collateral for the maintenance of your genocidal empire, but you cry like a little baby at just the suggestion that the shoe should be on the other foot. You're ridiculous: "Oh you can't call for the collapse of Nazi Germnany! That's AcCeLeRaTiONisM!" -ChonkyOwlbear in 1942.

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[-] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago

You mean it was a lay up for Harris she refused to capitalize on because she personally received too much money in bribes.

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[+] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Or maybe she didn't have a simple black and white opinion on a very nuanced situation and recognized that pulling support for Israel would only lose the US it's seat at the negotiating table.

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[-] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Given multiple experts have stated Israel cannot continue it's genocide without us support, this is incorrect. The US holds all of the cards.

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[+] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world -10 points 2 weeks ago

Citation needed.

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[-] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

The people who told Democrats for months to change position were Democrats and people who worked in the democratic party, some of whom did so for decades.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5086924/the-dnc-didnt-let-a-palestinian-american-speak-the-uncommitted-movement-took-note

June Rose, the sole “uncommitted” delegate from Rhode Island, also said it was incorrect to assume the delegation members come from the fringes of the Democratic Party.

“We are Democratic professionals. I’m the chief of staff of the Providence City Council. I’ve made my career helping to elect Democrats and defeat Republicans who pose incredible risk to the future of our country,” the 29-year-old told Al Jazeera.

“But my relationship with the party will never supersede my relationship with my values, and in this case, my values and my party are in direct conflict.”

Rose named Eileen Abu Odeh, a toddler killed with her family in an Israeli air raid in Gaza, during the roll call. They explained the delegation’s presence at the Democratic National Convention can serve as a gut check for the party, as it prepares to chart a course forward on foreign policy.

“Our party cannot just make this week a celebration, and I think that that’s the tone that many in our party want to take,” Rose said. “But that celebration would be on the graves of innocent children who’ve been slaughtered.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/17/uncommitted-delegates-bring-gaza-war-message-to-democratic-convention