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Electoral politics doesn't get the job done
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24998458
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this post was submitted on 03 Feb 2025
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This is a pretty intense topic to get involved with.
I dithered a little bit about getting a firearm. I still do not have one. I know how to use them, in a cursory kind of way.
Part of why I've held back on getting one is this: Imagine playing a board game for the first time, and if you lose, you're going to die. Or sitting down at a poker table to play for the first time in your life. How well are you going to play? Are you probably going to win? Also, the game only lasts for fifteen seconds.
Having a gun sounds like not a bad idea for what's coming up in this country. Having a gun and no experience at all in the types of situations you might get yourself into, if you have a gun, sounds almost worse than just not having one. People freak out, they fuck up, they take the wrong decisions. It's what naturally happens when you're playing an adversarial game for the first time in your life. After a while, you learn the game, and you start making generally good decisions a lot more of the time. But the first time...
I'm not saying having a gun is a bad idea. There are days when I think I'm being stupid for not having one. But also, you need to know what you're doing, and if you don't have some kind of military or other professional training, you're not going to know what you're doing, and you can walk yourself into situations there's no good way out of if you don't know what you're doing.
Saving what?
How do you do that in a small apartment?
You sound like you've never lived in poverty. Unfortunately, millions of Americans do.
I didn't lecture you about anything, but if you grew up "dirt poor," like you claim you did, then I would think that you would understand that people in poverty do not have anything to save.
Also, the idea that you could feed yourself and your kids with what you grow in small planters in an apartment (before they kick you out for not paying rent because you lost your job due to being out protesting) is not how the universe works.
I assume you are now going to make the suggestion I saw someone make the other day and let their kids eat out of dumpsters.
Also, I am sorry, but this is fucking stupid:
You do not automatically come up with good solutions which are beyond criticism and people who criticize them aren't people who are just ignoring things.
Sorry, you're not a god.
And there it is- "you ran away like a coward."
Well one suggestion would be to have some compassion for people living paycheck-to-paycheck and not expect such people to ruin their lives and, worse, their kids lives by doing things that are, at best, highly impractical and, at worse, could leave them destitute. And it's not just you, you're just part of a wider group saying things like people should be feeding their kids out of dumpsters if they really wanted to do something about Trump.
Another would be to suggest that rather than such people growing their own food and saving money they do not have to save, that they take part in collective action and protesting when they are able to do so, rather than on a specific, limited schedule that others who have far more freedom in their lives expect them to follow.
A third would be to not tell people like the residents of the 13.5% of American households that were food insecure a couple of years ago that they just need to make do with less when there is no less.
You asked me for suggestions and then ignored them.
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Cool. I've read what Dr. King has written. You still asked me for suggestions and ignored them. And the fact that you think Dr. King applies here when we are talking about mostly people of color suffering is ironic as fuck.
Please quote what I am dictating. I would like to see what I am dictating. Unless you're lying, of course. I'm betting on the latter, but feel free to prove me wrong.
I'd also love to know what you think regularly trying to accuse me of being a coward achieves.
You are an absolute BADASS for not letting this clown get to you.
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Thank you.
Not one quote.
So you lied. Got it.
And if it is "apparent to everyone" that I am a coward, why keep pointing it out? Also, if that makes me a coward, why are you glad about it?
Jesus christ you're simple. Go pick another argument with another user champ, that seems to be your hobby.
I may be simple, but you still lied. Although this sure looks like dictating to me, so I'm not sure why you have a problem with such behavior:
You've contributed nothing and only put marginalized people further at risk by your inaction and pedantry. Find some way to help and do that (or just keep arguing on the internet, that's totally helpful).
Have a nice day.
Insulting me will not change the fact that you lied and then did the very thing you lied about me doing.
You lost the plot a long long time ago champ, please stop responding to me now. Go be pedantic and argue useless bullshit with someone else ya fuckin' clown.
Once again, it seems like you're the one who wishes to dictate things to people, so it's odd that you falsely accused me of doing it.
Nobody? Can I see your data or is this another lie?
The dictate usage? It's not a lie just because you didn't know that usage, chalk it up to a learning moment.
So no data about this claim that nobody likes me? Guess it was also a lie.
Your fragility is hilarious.
Interesting that you've been hurling all of these insults and commanding me to do things and yet I'm the fragile one. Very interesting.
Very well, please quote me showing my fragility. I won't be holding my breath.
"Please quote me showing my fragility."
Bro I pushed your button this morning when I got to work by copypasting a well-known quote. You've been arguing over more and more tangential shit since then just like I knew you would. We can argue for a week because you can't ever let something go.
Seriously though "please quote me showing my fragility" is the funniest thing I've read in awhile. Thanks for being my entertainment today.
Are you seriously calling out someone for having a moment of weakness because he was afraid for the safety of his family?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
A gun is going to be at least what - $500?
If I had $500 lying around, that’d be a down payment on an apartment in a place where they can’t fire you for being a tranny.