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Lol. I'm also not the biggest fan of children, but what are the parents supposed to do? Not having vacation? Leave them home alone? Throw them out the window on the drive to the airport?
Don't have vacations or visit family even if it's for a wedding or funeral. Stay inside your house until your kids graduate high school to be sure. Having a life is not worth the possibility of inconveniencing other people for a few hours every so often. You're ruining other people's lives if you do so.
They can pick a vacation where they don't have to fly... They chose to have kids and that comes with a lot of baggage.
Why would they care about your opinion enough to not go on holiday where they want? If you want to fly without the chance of noisy kids then fly first class, or better still, private jet.
No? Can't afford? Suck it up then lol, people are going to live their lives regardless of a bit of noise that you can easily cancel out with headphones.
hell yeah, fuck them poor people
Lmao How about the parents suck it up and choose a different vacation where they're not subjecting the public to their terrors? I didn't choose to have kids, I should not have to put up with other people's kids. Too many people have kids who have no business being parents.
last flight I was on had a crying kid and a guy who kept trying to slip booze into his coffee and had to be confronted several times.
guess who was the most annoying one.
point is, flying fucking sucks, most mature adults realise this and just get through it despite the discomfort. complaining about it like an entitled prick demanding certain people can't fly is frankly pathetic
Screaming children are half the reason flying sucks. If your kid does not do well in public, pick another vacation or have someone watch them. Part of the responsibility that comes with having kids.
get a sitter. If you can afford a holiday, budget for a sitter.
Or don’t have holidays until the snot factories are old enough to behave if you can’t afford a sitter. You chose to have children.
Yes, because it’s perfectly normal to leave your young kids with strangers for a couple weeks while you go on holiday, or visit family.
Then don't go on vacation until they're old enough to be well behaved lmao
The same can be said for adults.
Couldn't agree more lol
For a night, for a couple days maybe but for weeks? Hell no, that is not what babysitters are for. And you’re delusional if you think so. A parent who leaves their kids with a stranger for weeks is not a good parent and could be brought up on child abandonment charges.
Let's see who will pay for your retirement and medical care eventually... (unless if you live in that US hellscape ofcourse)
If that's all you're having kids for please do not have kids.
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. The only reason I got kids was to make sure they can take care of my retirement.
Just as I'm taking care of my parents. I have totally absolutely 100% not broken off all contact with them because of their shitty behaviour. No sir, absolutely not.
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
If you're having kids with the express intent that they care for you when you're old, you're already doing it wrong.
well most likely be dead before anyone under 30 reaches that age.
Why do you need to fly for vacation? When did flying for vacation become mandatory?
It’s not. But it’s much easier to deal with kids on a 2hr flight than it is to deal with them on a multiple day drive. And just because I have kids doesn’t mean I have to choose the more difficult option. I say this as a parent who has driven across the country with my kids, multiple times.
You require a multiple days drive for a vacation?
Oh, I was speaking for other people. I’ve never actually been on a vacation.
"I'll make everyone's flight miserable because I don't want to experience the bad consequences of my choices"
you did choose the more difficult option the moment you chose to have children. having children comes with inconveniences and because that's your choice to have children you have to deal with the consequences, not others
Lmao yes, I have to make my life more difficult because I chose to have kids. That makes perfect sense.
'your choices, your consequences'
not 'your choices, everyone else's consqeuences'
it isn't that hard to understand is it? your entitlement is insane
Lmao dude. Get off your high horse. Your comfort doesn’t trump mine and vice versa. If anyone is entitled here, it’s you, believing that parents have to always go out of their way to make sure everyone else is comfortable just because they have kids and you don’t.
parents have child => parents are inconvinienced by child => others who have nothing to do with parents and their child should be inconvenienced instead of the parents
following your logic, complete strangers should have to pay the kindergarten for your child. after all just because you chose to have children doesn't mean that you have to be inconvenienced (by paying money for it) and others don't, right?
First of all dipshit, you do pay for kindergarten. Via taxes. What are you, 12?
Like I said, my comfort doesn’t trump yours and your comfort doesn’t trump mine. Either deal with the fact that kids will be on flights or stop flying. Or become a member of congress and try to pass a law barring kids from planes.
of course tax money is used to pay for kindergarten too but at least in my country you pay something like 15 euros per day yourself
also, I could've said babysitter too. or clothes. or food. or something else, it doesn't matter. my point still stands
Like I said, your choice your discomfort and my chioce my discomfort. Either deal with the fact that cartain choices have consequences or make different choices
seriously tho, you're making your self-made problem everyone else's
that's like me burning my car and saying "yeah I made the choice to burn my car and I knew of the consequences, but why should only I have to pay for the damage and not others as well? their comfort doesn't trump mine"
Usually, yes. Stay home or have a sitter or nanny. If it's a family emergency or tragedy, benedryl for the child before the flight. Do NOT change the child outside of the plane's lavatory. Premium economy, not business class, as premium has some perks for bringing your baby, is more affordable than business class. Daytime flights if possible. Red-eye's people want to sleep. Be prepared, binkies, blankets, diapers, quiet toys, etc. Try to fly when you will have the most energy, hard to parent if you yourself are sleeping from exhaustion. (not always a choice, we know.) Insure your flight. If the baby is sick, colic, or especially if it has inner ear problems, don't go or again, arrange care for the child. No need to make the baby suffer, and in turn making you and everyone else miserable, too. Many people will not be kind if the child wasn't feeling well and kept them up 14 hours, which will be hard on you in addition to your own exhaustion.