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Chess (lemmy.world)

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[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 48 points 4 months ago

What’s the benefit to the game of this being a draw instead of an obvious loss to white?

[-] Evolith@lemmy.world 149 points 4 months ago

"You didn't win correctly." - Chess (The original Dark Souls-themed tactical grid-based roguelike war game)

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago
[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Or in one of the paid dlcs.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 8 points 4 months ago

Na the last patch to chess was 400 years ago. I don't think it is being actively developed anymore.

[-] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

David Sirlin actually made chess 2 years ago, you can go try out its different armies

[-] gloog@fedia.io 73 points 4 months ago

Stalemate rules mean that a player in a heavily disadvantaged position still has the opportunity to play for a draw, whether that comes from their own clever play or a mistake from their opponent (what happened in the comic).

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 4 months ago

It forces players to focus on the game no matter how much of an advantage they have.

[-] Vigge93@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

In a competitive setting, it would mean that both players get 0.5 points instead of white getting 0 and black getting 1 points.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago

I don't know anything about chess but I imagine one benefit would be to give the losing player one last opportunity to avoid a loss by being strategic and give the winning player the need to still think about their moves instead of just randomly moving around since they know they will win otherwise.

[-] dragonlobster@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In theory black could play poorly and give the queen away by placing it next to the white king, then if the white king takes the black queen it would be a draw. Why would black do such a thing? Well playing poorly also means stalemating your opponent in an obviously winning position, which also happened here.

You can argue it's an "obvious win", just like I could argue if I'm a piece up it's an "obvious win" for me. But just because it's obvious doesn't mean the result is guaranteed to happen.

Also I guarantee you not everyone can actually checkmate a king with just a queen and king. So in fact it's not so obvious for a super beginner.

As for the benefits of the actual mechanism itself, in some positions you can actually force a draw or stalemate where you'd either otherwise be losing, or you are unclear of your advantage. For example in one of my games I was chasing the King around with my Rook where if the king took my rook, it would be stalemate, and if they didn't take my rook I would keep checking the king (while making sure the distance between my rook and their king is 0).

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Never liked that rule. The king should be a capturable piece and be allowed to step into checks. It might make the game harder at a beginner level but it gets rid of the anticlimactic stalemates. It won't get rid of draws because the repetition rule still applies.

this post was submitted on 04 Feb 2025
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