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Luigi Mangione makes first public statement since arrest
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Still dont get it why he is still charged over somthg he obviously didnt do. Is justice sociale bad in the US, why people dont react. Like O.J. Simpson case but in reverse, everybody knows Luigi is not guilty...
These images could be false leads just as much as Luigi could be a false arrest. People assume these pictures are "the guy" just because they were presented first.
Do you realise that the assassination has been recorded? Guy on the left is the suspect.
We don't have all the evidence.
If he checked into the hostel with the same ID that was used to get the bus out of the city and they weren't his identity, then there is the manifesto that may or may not have been planted in the gun that may or may not have been planted. Then there's the manifesto in substack from before the event, well before the event.
Together that's probably enough for a trial.
I dont get why he made himself look like the suspect, but reality is that its not him. The record of the assassination clearly shows a smaller dude with differents eyebrows, eyelash and skin color. Just like OJ Simpson, there was no doubt it was him, yet he was found innocent over petty details...
He has not once said he didn’t do it has he? I think this whole conspiracy theory like most is silly.
Yeah he did it, that’s why he’s a hero.
Bruh you never considered he wanted to make himself look like the suspect, the pics of the suspect were all over the news before he got arrested. He had plenty of time to take similar (not exactly the same) outfits, a gun and write a manifesto...
We are talking about facts, what are his motivation is not important.
He is not a hero, he is either a deranged man wanting to get fame or a stupid chap that wanted to make fun of the police. And do you want to know how i know that? Cause there is a factual proof in the actual recording of the suspect comitting the crime... And its obviously not him... And btw he cant speak to the press, you dont know if he will plead guilty or not...
Can’t rationalize with a conspiracy theorist
Being the devil's advocate here, but he could have discarded the grey bag and grabbed a black bag with more normal stuff. This image doesn't quite support the statement. There must be other, more powerful evidence of his innocence.
Nah.
That's not how this shit works homie.
Luigi doesn't have to prove his innocence, the prosecutor has to prove he's guilty beyond reasonable doubt...
Like, you're literally completey opposite of reality with your statement. So in a way you couldn't be more wrong
Kinda, there's a lot more play here than want you two are talking about.
Prosecution has:
Now, He's innocent until proven guilty, But that is not to say that he doesn't need to disprove all this mountain of evidence against him if he is going to get off based on evidential findings. You don't have to prove your innocence, But he's going to have to Make a shadow of down and face of overwhelming evidence.
But honestly between you me and a couple hundred thousand of our best friends here, I suspect there's not a chance in hell of him getting off in that way. It's going to be jury nullification or something spectacular, or he's getting life.
Shadow of a Down is my trip hop SOAD cover band.
The burden of proof is on the prosecution in America.
incorrect it is on the defense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)
even wikipedia has it wrong
in the United States it is on the defense to pay for and to provide evidence because the prosecutor makes up anything they want along with whatever the jackboots in the case states happens with the judge going along with it in complicity and the defendant is presumed guilty throughout the entire process and even if the defendant proves their innocence the claim may not be dismissed
Lol ..
I've never seen someone post a source showing they're wrong...
Then saying "even that source is wrong, and I'm still right".
Like, did you search for anything that agrees with you and then just give up but thought people would just up ote a source?
Haven't argued with many MAGAts have you? I had an anti-vaxxer do that numerous times because he couldn't understand math. That precluded him from understanding that his source didn't support his argument, but he was still posting sources saying he was wrong.
Why would I?
They want an argument, they want to be "challenged" and to "fight the good fight".
If rational people argue with them, it raises their group cohesion and they all circlejerk about it later.
If rational people do the rational thing and do t engage with them they still need those arguments. So instead of circle jerking with each other, they have to argue with each other. Which fractures their group.
Please be a rational person and stop being the punching bag of the right.
You'll never change their minds with facts and logic. All you're doing is reinforcing their beliefs
Just felt like repeating this. It sums up my opinion so nicely. Most of the time, I won’t even give MAGAts the satisfaction of a downvote.
Oh, it’s you, again. I didn’t look at the username when I saw this mindless post. As ever.
The claimant would be the prosecution.
They have made a claim that he killed someone.
Bruh... Its not about the backpack, its not the same face, at all... Eyebrows and color skin are completly different. And on the full body pic of the suspect we Can see the suspect IS way smaller than Luigi...
Lighting changes skin tone a lot, and jackets cover up the build of the body. I'm not saying for sure it is him, but I also am not sure this disproves it being him.
So do image processors and different camera sensors.
Is there reasonable doubt it could be him?
Based on the evidence we've seen, yes, there is a reasonable doubt.
But we are the public, not the judge and jury. We are not being presented with the full testimony and evidence.
That's not how the justice system is supposed to work.
Look at the jackets. The suspect has a jacket that has a hood made of the same material and appears in this image to be a pullover. Luigi has a hood that is a different material than jacket and appears to be a zip up.
If he’s going to change his backpack, why not change his coat and scarf as well?
The coat is clearly a different color, has a different sewn pattern on the hood, and different pockets.
So he just happened to have a gun on him in Pennsylvania that coincidentally matched the ballistic evidence in Manhattan?
You talk like the police never planted evidence before.
So the Altoona Pennsylvania police who made the arrest just happened to plant the evidence for the NYPD? Lol
Yes? Why would that be surprising
Because it wasn't their case and they have no connection to it.
What cop wouldn't want to jump on the opportunity to be the one to catch the guy who did a high profile murder?
I guess the one who forgets about the other evidence in New York.
Let me see the footage of the arrest. Dept desperate to "get their perpetrator" often do desperate things, can't be having the ruling class be murdered and nobody being punished for it now can we?
The Altoona PA police department made the arrest.
Are you insinuating that police forces don't work together or share information? Show me the video I want before he arrived, body cams, all of it. Every house has a ring camera it should be pretty solid unless mysterious it didn't work just like the night Epstein was murdered.
Just because that's what the police said doesn't make it true. Police are known liars and have been caught countless times arresting the wrong person, planting evidence, and/or lying to get an arrest and make themselves not look as inept as they are.
The police need to punish someone. If a crime has been committed, that's a bonus. If they are punishing the preparator of the crime, that's a double-bonus. If they can murder you, they get a paid vacation while the union takes care of the paperwork.
Security camera footage that shows where the assassin dumped the gun and backpack, suppress the footage, have chatGPT whip up a manifesto, pin it on some guy with a similar nose.
Like, seriously, when's the last time you saw a cop outside of a cop T.V. show? Are we still pretending they have the publics best interests at heart?
All I know is he was at my place that night, so couldn't have been him.
OK, to play devil's advocate, if it wasn't Luigi in the picture, who was it? For what purpose was Luigi in town? I understand that in the legal system, the defense doesn't need to PROVE who else did it and that they just need to create reasonable doubt... but what's your take?
What are you looking for here? A name? How would we know?
Well, if it wasn't Luigi, then who was it? Why would someone go through the trouble of finding someone that looks just like him? Who would that be... why was Luigi picked for a scapegoat? If the contention of OP is "Luigi isn't the guy"... then who is? From my standpoint, Luigi had the means, the motive and the motivation due to his personal history and abilities.
I realize that in court his defense won't have to say "we have proof it was this other guy" but I'm not in court right now. If OP doesn't think Luigi did it, then who else would have?
Any of a million other people. For Luigi's case, it doesn't matter who did it. Luigi didn't, end of discussion.
Any of the other millions upon millions of people and their families that UHC has intentionally harmed/killed?
Make up your own mind based on the facts and their justifications, but the reason the rules are like that in court is because punishing people for crimes they didn't commit is injustice, even if you don't ever find the actual culprit.
I think maybe they played too much Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, wherein the defendant is guilty until proven innocent AND you identify the actually guilty party. Yes, really. You still lose in that game even in the event that you can definitively prove your client's innocence if you don't also turn in the actual culprit. That's how this guy thinks the justice system should work.
The sad thing is that a victims family will grasp at anything to have who they think the killer is be put behind bars.
But it's better to let an innocent person walk than get the wrong person, even if it leaves the family devastated.