I like the Shame route but it's more of a curiosity thing. Like you want to know how an electric motor works so you hook it up to a 12v source before hooking it up to a 1000v source. In this case, the 1000v source is watching their beliefs get destroyed.

I definitely said toxic things to the people on lemmy. It was toxic environment, mutually toxic.

Effective is relative. Like if I wanted the angry mob to form well I succeeded, but I was trying to get them to explain how I was wrong, like actually putting it into words and then confront them on their logic. But I can say my methods are ineffective in the sense that people wouldn't explain how I'm wrong (I mean they wouldn't say how my methods are wrong)

Re:zero anime has told me that I can't and shouldn't try to break people because they'll make their way through suffering.

Now I undermine people in power by basically helping the fediverse , but I should stop undermine people even if I think they're displaying toxic traits