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submitted 1 week ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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After a tense Oval Office encounter with Donald Trump and JD Vance, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy received a warm UK welcome, including an official audience with King Charles at Sandringham.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer convened a defence summit with European and NATO allies to reaffirm solidarity with Ukraine, discuss unlocking frozen Russian assets, and counter the rift caused by Trump’s accusations of Zelenskyy’s ingratitude.

European leaders fear the spat endangers Western unity and peace efforts and are vowing no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukrainian involvement.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

That’s why they compromised trump.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Really tired of people saying "this is so bad for the US!"

Yea....no shit. That's literally the whole point of all these insane actions.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

And I'm also getting a little tired of them expecting me to be sad that this is bad for the US. A lot of the "woe is me, the US is losing influence!" Sounds almost as whiny to the non-American audience as some of the MAGA stuff about the world not being "grateful" enough for them.

The US' international influence has been a mixed blessing for a long time. I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what Europe manages to put together as a replacement. Could be a step up.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

“Step up” are the exact words Europe needs to take to heart right now. Fuck the US. We’re the worst of everything everyone says about us and we don’t deserve a moment’s sympathy. I mean it’s been literally decades since the last time we pulled Europe’s security out of the fire for them. So show us what you can do without leaning on us.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lot of the "oh noes the US is losing influence" comes twofold from:

  1. General sinophobia as China is often seen as the next viable global superpower.

  2. Americans who deep down know exactly how good they've had it because of that influence and are suddenly scared that their own country could become the true corrupt, broke shithole it has always really been. We only ever had wealth because we dominated and stole it from the rest of the world.

I'm with you, US losing influence isn't a bad thing. It's only bad for US citizens, who need to get a grip on how comfortable and coddled they have really been, even if they are poor. US poor is not international poor, once again, because we stole so much wealth from the rest of the world. I say this as a US citizen who is daily disgusted by the selfishness and coddled ass attitudes of his fellow Americans.

A good example of why is how we took the worlds outpouring of compassion after 9/11 and squandered the fuck out of it by playing world police and killing untold millions in the middle east and Europe has been dealing with the aftermath for 20 fucking years now.

[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As someone living in Asia, the US losing influence is a really scary thing. China has been increasing their aggression in the region and the US's presence has always been the counter to that. It was a good balance but a weaker US will tip the balance to China's favour. Not to mention that the US has been a key factor in getting Korea and Japan to work together on security matters. Unfortunately, there's no EU or NATO equivalent for us to rely on.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

As an eastern European who knows what it's like to have an angry belligerent neighbour next door, I feel for you. I don't have much to offer other than hoping you and yours continue to be ok, and hoping that nearby countries in similar situations can organize somewhat to help eachother.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, there's no EU or NATO equivalent for us to rely on.

I would say this is a good time for you guys to make one. My home country is Canada, and I think it'd be great to see defensive pacts in both the Atlantic and Pacific - we'd be keen on joining both of them, I suspect. We're threatened by Chinese influence too.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Very well said, and I echo the sentiment. Americans have been too comfortable their entire lives. Now, they may learn what it actually is to suffer and be poor.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Problem is, a lot of them already are suffering and poor. Look at the nightmare that is American health care, for example. They're dead last among the developed world and people would rather risk death than call an ambulance because they fear it'll put them and their next-of-kin into debt forever. Losing a job can mean death for some because their health insurance depends on employment.

And yet the propaganda reverberates back and forth among them; "The United States is the greatest country in the world! Land of the free and home of the brave!"

I'm Canadian, and Trump's been Trumping a lot about how Canada should be forcibly made the "51st state." He said, among other insane and offensive drivel, that Canadians would get better healthcare if that happened. I honestly think a lot of Americans believe that. They are deeply indoctrinated.

We've seen plenty of other countries where this kind of indoctrination works. People may live terrible lives of deprivation, but as long as they believe their enemies are worse off they love dear leader for the bounty they've been given.

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