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[-] XenGi@feddit.org 28 points 2 days ago

At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren't the bad guys?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Pretty much all Western countries looked up to the US between 1945 and 2016 (or so).

Presumably, you're the kind of person who thinks we've all been the bad guys the whole time, though. And TBF shit things were done, it's just that everyone else has been even more shit.

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Pretty much all Western countries looked up to the US between 1945 and 2016 (or so).

Are you sure about that? Pretty much all Western countries see America as a convenient bully.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

As a Westerner not from America (like most of the users in this community), yes, I am sure about that. I didn't say it was a relationship without conflict, but they helped defeat the Nazis, lead the charge in the Cold War and then were the fulcrum of the new trade-focused world order in the so-called "end of history" period that followed. We all watched American movies the whole time and it's not because anyone was forcing us.

[-] XenGi@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

They only joined WW2 when the Nazis where pretty much defeated by the rest of the allies and success was guaranteed. Only to invent themselves as the sole winner of the war. During the Cold war they fought hot proxy wars all over the place without any interest in casualties as long as they didn't look weak for the soviets. Even after the Cold war western countries were only lucky that the US didn't invade them for oil or other interests. They brought "freedom" to so many countries by now it became a fucking meme. Sure I'm seeing things a bit narrow and I might be biased but the US is and was a shithole that fucked up everyone around them as long as I can think of. The only reason they could do it is because they would crush you if you tried stopping them or it was useful to you because you weren't the current victim. As you put it so nicely, the convenient bully.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 29 points 2 days ago

Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.

[-] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

Looks at founding fathers... Yeah killed the slavers. Puts blanket over Native Indians. Hides Chinese rail workers under rug. Renames Irish "Indentured workers"

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

They were clearly talking about the Union during the Civil War...

[-] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago

Yeah that's pretty obvious what's your point?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

What's the relevance of the founding fathers, then?

[-] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago

The original slavers you mean?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 22 hours ago

I'm repeating the words you used. What's the relevance?

[-] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml -1 points 17 hours ago

You forgot to say please.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

They also killed the Nazis, except for the ones that were useful, of course.

[-] Retropunk64@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Nobody said the founding fathers killed slavers?

[-] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

Surely you jest in your obtuse interpretation of my composed articulation...

[-] Retropunk64@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

So you at least understand the comment you replied to wasn't talking about the founding fathers... So why fucking bring them up?

[-] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

You might want to open up a history book and see when slavery started in the colonies chief.

I kinda root for them in the war of independence

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