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Right now a lot of us are trying to divest and diversify from having our entire lives on Google both because of the way Google spends its money and the long-standing privacy concerns seeming a bit more scary now.

What services have you switched to and what has your experience been? What do you like, what don't you like, would you recommend them?

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[-] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 1 day ago

ProtonMail was the GMail alternative for awhile, until Proton CEO did a stupid move. Otherwise, ProtonMail had actually been a great service and it was nice having a data cap of 500MB. It told me that was all I ever needed for the few years I had with it.

Firefox Forks over Chrome.

[-] pleasestopasking@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago
[-] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 1 day ago

Proton CEO endorsed Trump. Proton's stance has always been against Big Tech and how Big Tech is bad and that's all well and good. But, it's contradicting when you praise or endorse an administration that's more than likely going to let Big Tech roll over everyone.

[-] pleasestopasking@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

Was out of the loop on that so I just did the most cursory search. What do you think of this take on it?

[-] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 17 hours ago

It's even worse. I can't really see how someone can find anything positive to say about Republicans. I'm sorry but Non-Americans do not really know how bad Republicans really are here, until they're faced with a party governing their country that behaves similarly to them.

Oh by the way, Net Neutrality got killed again when the BIden Administration tried appealing for it to be restored. Can you guess which party or affiliation was probably behind it? If you guessed Republican, you'd be right.

I'm just waiting for the gotcha moment to come around and Proton will one day, truly see that Republicans are not on their side.

[-] Liljekonvalj@feddit.org 3 points 21 hours ago

Could this be an attempt to clean the proton name? I think it's difficult to say anything when it comes from a source I know nothing about.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I never saw anyone try to claim that he was MAGA. Even if he doesn't necessarily support Trump, the tweet is still beyond tone-deaf as it's still painting Trump in a positive light while Trump is trampling on our rights and the constitution.

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It should also be mentioned that Trump is also actively making things worse for privacy everywhere else, so why even bother cherry-picking that one nomination? It's obvious that the way Trump works is that if you don't follow his word he will just fire you. Even if this nomination may have a past that might show they would do some good things for privacy, if you're not a pawn under Trump's control then you will just be replaced. So the whole point is moot.

Additionally, look at the tweet in question "Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned." There is zero excuse for praising the Republican party and somehow not supporting Trump. They are directly connected and the two concepts cannot be divorced. Supporting the Republican party in any way literally means supporting Trump. Full stop.

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago

He also conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by "small business" like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality is the past is too murky to endorse in any manner. And that medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association too, so wouldn't be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

Poor article with it attempting to be a character fluff piece that completely ignores that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by "small business" like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 1 day ago

Proton CEO endorsed Trump

This is a blatant lie. That never happened.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Not a blatant lie, but somewhat of an exaggeration. He praised Trump, then praised the Republican party while denigrating the Democrats in the same sentence.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

He did not "praise Trump", he praised a single appointment that he made. This is the kind of tribal toxic bullshit that stifles any sort of progress. If Trump does something right (not that he did), you need to be allowed to say that without being accused of being a nazi or someone claiming that you "endorsed" him.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

You're literally in denial of the definition of words.

Trump is a felon, a rapist, and a liar among other things. If you don't acknowledge that he's a scumbag while you give him an expression of approval then it makes it seem you approve of the person overall. If there was something Trump did right and people wanted to talk about that, then it would be pretty simple to say something like "Trump sucks, but..." That's not a crazy expectation and that's not "tribal toxic bullshit".

Imagine if someone was saying something like "It's nice that John Wayne Gacy participated in fundraisers and entertained the children" or "Thanks to Jeffery Dahmer for his military service" without acknowledging the horrible things they did.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 13 hours ago

You're literally in denial of the definition of words.

No. You are.

If you don't acknowledge that he's a scumbag while you give him an expression of approval then it makes it seem you approve of the person overall.

It may "seem" that way to you if you're not objective but it doesn't make it true.

That's not a crazy expectation

It actually is a crazy and ridiculous expectation.

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