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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

That's not what the article is about. I think putting some more objectivety into the decisions you listed for example benefits the majority. Human factors will lean toward minority factions consisting of people of wealth, power, similar race, how "nice" they might be or how many vocal advocates they might have. This paper just states that current AIs aren't very good at what we would call moral judgment.

It seems like algorithms would be the most objective way to do this, but I could see AI contributing by maybe looking for more complicated outcome trends. Ie. Hey, it looks like people with this gene mutation with chronically uncontrolled hypertension tend to live less than 5years after cardiac transplant - consider weighing your existing algorithm by 0.5%

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Creatinin in urine was used as a measure of kidney function for literal decades despite African Americans having lower levels despite worse kidneys by other factors. Creatinine level is/was a primary determinant of transplant eligibility. Only a few years ago some hospitals have started to use inulin which is a more race and gender neutral measurement of kidney function.

No algorithm matters if the input isn't comprehensive enough and cost effective biological testing is not.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Well yes. Garbage in garbage out of course.

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

That's my point, this is real world data, its all garbage, and no amount of LLM rehashing fixes that.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Sure. The goal is more perfect here, not perfect.

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