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Jordan Lund at it again (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

Context:

The article in question was well sourced, factually accurate, and written by a well-renowned author and journalist whose work appears elsewhere too, regardless of which outlet published it.

Nonetheless, Jordan Lund is once again blindly trusting a pro-zionist conservative outlet masquerading as a bias and fact checker that nothing from anywhere that criticizes the fascist apartheid regime can be reliable 🤦

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[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 27 points 1 day ago

TIL Mint Press News.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News

MintPress News supported former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, and the governments of Russia and Iran.[3][4]

The editor had investors, who Muhawesh claimed were "retired businesspeople", but she would not name them

Soon afterward, Brian Lambert of MinnPost wrote an article following up on Burke's challenge to find out where MintPress's money came from. He reported that emails to them went unanswered, their phone was disconnected, and the original office address in Plymouth, Minnesota, "haven't been valid in well over a year". While MintPress listed 20 of its writers, Lambert wrote it did not indicate where the money was "coming from to pay any of these people".[16]

MintPress News has reposted content from Russian state media outlets RT and Sputnik,[25][26] and is listed as a "partner" of PeaceData, a Russian fake news site run by the Internet Research Agency.[27][28][29] A report from New Knowledge includes MintPress News as part of the "Russian web of disinformation,"[30][31] and the site has published fake authors attributed to the GRU, the Russian military intelligence agency.[32] MintPress News defended Russia's invasion of Crimea, claiming Ukraine's post-revolution government was "illegitimate".[33]

Sounds like YDI. MBFC is horrible of course, but it sounds like in this case they got it right (somehow focusing in one of the only things Mint Press gets right, being "anti-Israel", presumably as a performative cover so they'll fit in better among other general left wing news. Which of course triggered MBFC, which is part of the whole reason why it's clever for them to include a whole bunch of "Israel's the bad guys" in among the "Russia's the good guys.")

[-] Heyting@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

With those standards basically all mainstream US media should be banned for publishing Israeli and US propaganda that defends their genocide on the Palestinians

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago

You can follow sources on mint press. It's work and I don't read every article from there or from there. It's not rocket science, just work and what I've read had checked out.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 10 points 1 day ago

What?

Did something I said sound like "the problem is that it's rocket science"? I feel like your message was intended to respond to someone else or something. The problem is that it's Russian propaganda, not that you "can't follow sources" or whatever.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth -5 points 1 day ago

My point is, they well -source their articles, which is a lot more than can often be said for legacy media. I don't care if it's obl if the sources are cited and easily verifiable. Because obl asked us nicely for a long time before Saudi nationals on a plane hit the wtc and the ~W admin invaded checks notes Iraq the second time, ~~since the issue was, iirc, the president there wanting to fund his state un food-for-oil account with petro_euro_ rather than petro_dollar_.~~ amassed wmd, which legacy media assured us they'd seen proof, ~~which turned out to be manufactured~~.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 13 points 1 day ago

Plane hit the WTC?

Invaded Iraq?

What the fuck are you talking about? No one is saying they don't "source" their articles. The problem is they post things like:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/textbook-politics-new-geography-book-and-atlas-recognize-russias-claim-to-crimea/210441/

Although the United Nations and many Western governments continue to object to Russia’s claims over Crimea

After Ukraine distanced itself economically and politically from Russia on the heels of the Euromaidan protests of 2013, the residents of the Crimean Peninsula of Ukraine overwhelmingly voted to break away from Ukraine and rejoin Russia. Russia announced the annexation of the region soon after, but the move has not been recognized by Ukraine or its NATO allies, leading to months of tense, sometimes violent conflict.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/western-media-ignore-critical-information-snipers-killed-euromaidan-protesters-ukraine/186661/

Instead of keeping its end of the bargain, the Ukrainian mainstream opposition executed a coup through the use of violence by organized ultra-nationalist gangs, which some analysts have compared to stay-behinds or secretive militias that were created by NATO during the Cold War.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/syria-ghouta-claim-saudi-supplied-rebels-chemical-attack/168135/

And so on

[-] nomoesyankho@lemmy.wtf -5 points 15 hours ago

Ah yes how dare somebody not follow our jingoist propaganda /s

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

lol

Just to do my due diligence: An easy hallmark of propaganda is that it keeps changing. Russia had every right to invade Crimea, because Crimea is Russia. Russia is not invading Crimea, those soldiers going over the border are nothing to do with us. The problem in Crimea is “tense, sometimes violent conflict” after Russia “announced the annexation.” Fast forward to 2022, and Russia is definitely not going to invade the rest of Ukraine. All these Western intelligence reports that say we’re going to invade are just Russophobia. We’re not even invading, we’re just trying to “denazify” Ukraine and remove this illegitimate government to help the Ukrainians. Most Ukrainians support the invasion. Anyway, it’s all the West’s fault we invaded, because NATO provoked us. We definitely want peace, this whole situation “just happened” somehow, and now any agreement that involves enforcement of peace with enough teeth that we can’t unilaterally ignore it sends us into a rage and means we stop negotiating.

And yes, of course this applies also to Western propaganda. You can see the same sort of pattern sometimes in what they say about Israel for example. The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. But the Russian POV about Ukraine or Syria is nothing but jingoistic poppycock. It deserves no respect.

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