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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Any religious representation [on govermental buildings] is offensive to secularism. A cross is just two over lapping lines but it would also be offensive in this context. Although the word offensive is a bit much, I'll give you that, I can understand why they want it gone.

It is a shame that secularism seems to disproportionately target Muslim women but it's either a religious symbol or it isn't.

Edit: Clarified first sentence.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago

This monument overlooks Montreal.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

And it should be taken down as well. Unfortunately, secularism is applied unevenly.

[-] nearhat@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

“Unevenly” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I should have said that politicians use secularism laws to be racist fucking pieces of shit.

With that said, I still believe that our different level of public services should be secular, and we should start with Christianity symbols first.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago

Any religious representation is offensive to secularism.

No, I don't agree. Making laws with religious justification is offensive to secularism. A drawing that depicts a person wearing a piece of clothing traditionally associated with a religion is not offensive to secularism.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I think it goes deeper then that. Secularism means complete disconnection of church and state. Having religious symbols on state buildings goes against that. Religious symbols are a form of propaganda in the end.

I would be okay with making an exception for the head scarf. Tbh I don't really consider it much of a symbol but I understand their reaction to it. I wish we had similar laws where I am, instead my kids get to learn about creationism (I'm just guessing it's still taught, I don't actually have kids).

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago

Any religious representation is offensive to secularism.

That sounds more like China and USSR-style state atheism than secularism.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It only seems extreme because we live in a christo-fascist state. I'm also only talking about when the state is involved. This would be fine on a private building, sorry if I wasn't clear.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago

It only seems extreme because we live in a christo-fascist state.

Uh... Canada is christofascist? What? You have to be kidding me. That aside this is a welcome sign not Sharia law; this sort of "the state can't acknowledge religion ever" logic benefits no one and excludes people who don't fit the state ideal of Christianity/atheism—and that's the thing: A secular state shouldn't have an ideal when it comes to people's religious beliefs. It's just another way to indirectly assert nationalist beliefs and exclude minorities with a vague appeal to secularism to make it more palatable.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

No, canada is definitely not christofascist, I just assume everyone lives within ten miles of me at all times, sorry.

That aside this is a welcome sign not Sharia law.

That is true. It does seem a bit petty in a way. I'm not really ready to criticize but I wouldn't have seen them as going against their own laws if they would have kept it. I sorely dislike all religions but this is the definition of inoffensif.

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