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[-] galanthus@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

American culture is a lot more imperialist than French culture. France is not an imperialist power now, unlike the US. In fact, out of the allies of the US, it has been the one that has shown the most opposition to US military interventions in the middle east. Why not hate on America? In any case, I am certain that you know very little about french culture.

[-] GunValkyrie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I can hate both equally, thank you.

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

You must not be American; we can only do one thing at a time.

Unless it's just ruining everything; we count that as one thing, even if it's not.

[-] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you for genuinely making me laugh today. Through my tears, but it still counts.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

France still holds colonies. You probably should look into that bit before talking about imperialism. France’s longest border is shared with Brazil.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's also one of the countries that was dumping its waste in Somali waters. France shouldn't be ignored just because the US eclipses all other imperialisim in the world at the moment.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Does the US currently eclipse all others? I would argue Russia has that crown as they currently are invading Ukraine to steal land and resources, after that it would be theUSA

[-] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

Russia is more overt and aggressive. Historically, the US has a thousand sins that are more subtle.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is not a colony. It is officially part of France. Guianans are citizens of France and can vote. It is no different from any other region at all. Unlike Puerto Rico.

Most Guianians are perfectly fine with being a part a France, and they even rejected a referendum asking for more autonomy:

"In 2010, a referendum was held in French Guiana on becoming an autonomous overseas territory. However, a substantial 70% of voters rejected the proposal, opting instead for full integration with France. This result, coupled with a low voter turnout of 48%, clearly indicated that the majority of those who voted preferred the status quo: French Guiana remaining an integral part of the French Republic."

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago

that totally natural part of France that is on another continent. Surely that isn’t a colony. What portion of Parliament has come from Guyana?

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well, you see, the word colony actually has a meaning. See this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony You might notice that even wikipaedia does not list is as a colony on its map.

As it is not separated from metropolitan France in terms of government, it is not a colony, since it is a fully integrated part of the state. It is not exploited in any way whatsoever, and the majority of residents want absolutely nothing to change.

There are two MPs from French Guiana, one for every 100000 people, same as everywhere else in France. It will probably be three soon, it seems.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago

Wikipedia isn’t a definitive resource for defining literally anything. I would not be using it to demonstrate anything of this nature.

How did Guyana become part of France? Oh that’s right French people came over and colonized it. The people of Guyana didn’t request that the French come over and take their lands and exploit the populations there…

France is/was an imperialist nation and they never gave that attitude up.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well, regardless of what wikipedia says this is what a colony is.

You see, it was a colony, but now it is not.

What is the problem? The people in Guiana are fine with being a part of France. Do you want to invade them and force them to leave?

[-] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago

Hey I wasn't defending the US when I said that.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well, I just do not understand why people hate France specifically.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago

And we shit on the US as well for it.

Same with Russia and China.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No you don't. Some criticise them, but hating France is a meme now for some reason, and I am sure people that hate France know next to nothing about it.

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