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[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Fantasy tech that canonically is tightly controlled by various races with better tech and a capitalist system.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Canonically they can say whatever they want to make the federation/humans paragons.

My point is, if we had essentially an infinite supply of food and other goods, wouldn't you feel more comfortable supporting people who would "bring about" that society? Wouldn't you feel a moral imperative to support such a society? Fantasy tech makes it easy (although perhaps not inevitable).

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's quite the opposite but sure.

I would, capitalists would not and do not which is why capitalism persists today let alone some future.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It’s quite the opposite but sure.

how would it be the opposite?

I would

that's all i'm trying to say really. The common reservations people have with socialism are pretty much nullified with tech like replicators.

capitalists would not and do not which is why capitalism persists today let alone some future.

what capitalists want doesn't matter if enough of the proletariat are in favor of socialism. In a world with replicators that would be the vast majority of people, even ones who were hesitant such as yourself.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because they're are multiple storylines about unmitigated capitalism being evil with the plot hinging around replicator technology and the fact the galaxy is not post scarcity. The federation is and several species and organizations are but as a whole the galaxy isn't. Humans specifically are almost never painted in the best light especially when it comes to capitalism and pre starfleet society.

That's your opinion and one that is largely hinged on humanity being at it's core altruistic which btw starfleet does not agree with you on.

Yes it does, the people with the money have the most power, this hasn't changed and canonically the same is true in universe again they're major multi series story arks.

even ones who were hesitant such as yourself.

There's that assumption again, pointing out what is is does not imply support thereof but sure, strawman it up if you feel that necessary.

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