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“Awful”: Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen
(arstechnica.com)
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Apple TV for the win
If you think another private company with profit on their mind is safe, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Apple has absolutely no interest in injecting ads like this. That’s not their business model. Apple has a thousand things wrong but it’s reasonable to assume they aren’t going to pull this kind of rug pull.
I definitely think Apple is less susceptible to this, but people seem to forget that Apple literally has an ads business.
Look at the ads in Apple news and in a couple of other places. Apple isn't immune to injecting ads into the UX of their products.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1330127/apple-ad-revenue-worldwide/
They still have an ad business, and ads are what companies turn to when times get tough. There's no guarantees that Apple will stay on top for other reasons, and to assume such a thing will never happen is truly foolhardy.
It's like believing Valve will be the same after Gabe Newell dies.
Further, Apple relies deeply on TMSC and since the US is basically in a nosedive of idiocy and protectionist tariffs, there's a significant chance their supply line for their chips could be deeply impacted, and by extension, their profits from their computing products. Whether from tariffs or China taking over Taiwan, Apple could easily get fucked out of luck fast.
Didn’t say Apple doesn’t have ads
No, you implied that they'll never ever ever never ever in a million years turn to their ad business to supplant lost sales elsewhere and that related things couldn't happen to impact their sales. Which is a bogus and easily disproven line of thought.
bro, you’re projecting and read all that in the other poster’s reply on your own.
chill and rebuild binutils and clang from source again
I did nothing of the sort. You’re projecting all sorts of stuff onto what I said. I said they would not inject ads like this. In this insanely intrusive manner or as a flagrant rug pull. That’s not how they operate.
That's literally the implication that I'm talking about that you say I'm projecting onto this. You don't know the future, that can change.
Dude I’ve clarified exactly what I meant. At some point you need to stop telling me what I said and listen to me when I tell you what I said.
To quote you:
And I'm saying you don't know that they won't do that in the future. But keep clarifying yourself more, I'm sure it will help clear it up.
Oh ffs no one knows anything about the future so let’s go pick apart literally any prediction you’ve ever made with any certainty if we’re going to be pedantic shits about it.
Let’s get prescriptive then since you’re such an ass:
It is reasonable to assume based on the way Apple implements ads at this stage that Apple will not implement ads the way we are seeing Roku roll them out in the post we are commenting on for the foreseeable future barring a major departure from how Apple does business, so for now one is probably safe to use Apple TV without fear of seeing this very obtrusive and obnoxious implementation of ads replicated on their Apple TV system.
Are you satisfied? Can we move on? Jfc you’re obnoxious. I don’t know why you’re pretending you don’t understand what I am saying. Go touch grass. Interact with people. Clearly you’ve lost the ability to infer or interpret basic sentences. Some people hate Apple so much it rots their brain i swear.
I'm not the one defending a corporation that literally hid behind their CEOs coming out story to avoid bad press about their tax dodging... Tax dodging which helped them get their obscene warchest today. Apple isn't your friend and doesn't care that you exist, dude.
Cry more and go suck some more corporate dick while you're at it.
Not defending Apple. I’m a Linux user. Apple can generally go fuck itself. Try again.
I'm definitely not the one being a tryhard here.
Also, Linux ain't safe from corporate influence when Linus dies, either.
There you go putting words in my mouth again
Other people having their own opinions isn't putting words in your mouth.
Ok then you’re making strawmen. Same difference.
FFS dude do you have so little grasp of the English language you legitimately can’t infer anything or are you just being dense on purpose?
Having an opinion and stating it isn't making a strawman.
At this point I'm just having fun pissing you off.
When did I call you a try hard?
When did I ever talk about corporate influence in any way, shape, or form?
You’re responding to shit I am not saying. That’s a strawman or putting words in my mouth.
I guess you can't infer that other people have their own opinions. The whole thing that started this was me having the opinion that you can't trust corporations to not change in the future.
You don't have to say certain things for me to be willing to make statements of my own opinion. That's how a conversation works but I guess you must not have a lot of those in real life.
You are an insufferable child and I won’t let you waste my time further. Frankly I’m embarrassed I rolled in the mud with you this long.
Feel free to have the last word. I’m sure it’s very important to you.
Apple has some serious catching up to do with enshitification on the appletv end. I think they are going to really blow our minds when they finally release a new appleTV. It's quite overdue and I'm guessing they are cooking up a doozy for us!
My predictions : still don't fix bit pass audio issue, eliminate ethernet port, crappier remote that still has no back lighting, siri/ appleai is everywhere but only makes things more frustrating, and who knows - maybe ads!!
I love how Dolby content doesn’t work with my Hue sync box!
Like I said, lots to complain about. But intrusive ads is not really their style.
Hasn’t Apple seriously considered the ad business in the past? I think I saw a video about it years ago. Most likely, they will switch their strategy as soon as it makes financial sense to do so.
It's not that they won't do it. It's that they currently don't so it's a good choice.
When they add ads, then we can find something else. I'm on Roku now but have been increasingly annoyed by the increase in ads.
Or just... don't. Self hosting video content isn't that hard, then you have full control.
I do. But I also see a need to support content creators.
You can support content creators without streaming services. I buy and rip DVDs and Blurays, which directly supports them.
As it stands now Apple TV for the win and I'd be legit shocked if Apple puts ads as you boot up an Apple TV.