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What are we going to do about it?

Sorry for the Google Translate Link. An easy alternative is much appreciated.

Edit: thanks to @Xamrica@lemmy.dbzer0.com for this translation alternative: https://translate.kagi.com/translate/https://www.xataka.com/servicios/foros-internet-estan-desapareciendo-porque-ahora-todo-reddit-discord-eso-preocupante

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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 109 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah I remember voicing this concern when all online communities seemed to be going to discord and people seemed to mainly laugh at me in response at the time.

Fuck Discord

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago

Companies putting their stuff into discord is like all the businesses that ditched a dedicated website and moved to facebook however many years ago. Yay, now it is on a format that doesn't work well for presenting static information and will inevitably require account registration!

[-] mars@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 months ago

Newest iteration of "this meeting could have been an email" has become "this Discord could have been a wiki".

[-] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

wiki + ai search = discord except ppl are the ai remembering stuff said in the chat lol, reddit + google was once good, nowadays I click on the other results since the reddit reply is its already been answered use google

[-] skytrim@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

And someone (on the Far-Right) is always trying to buy Wikipedia, monetise it, X-ify it, or take it down. I think Wikipedia is abusive - exploits volunteer unpaid labour - should have been created by an NGO like UN and kept safe for mankind like our Library of Alexandria. But it is what it is. Preppers download the whole site regularly in order to have that knowledge under their control in case is ever gets taken down or spoilt and they are rebuilding civilisation post-Armageddon. I keep meaning to download it myself (note to self: do that soon you lazy b. no more excuses!)

[-] mars@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Take a look at Kiwix. Makes it super easy plus some ideas for a good Raspberry Pi project.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 33 points 2 months ago

I quite like Discord, but I really only use it for it's original purpose - a place for groups of friends to hang out, play video games with voice chat, and maybe watch shows/movies together. For these purposes, Discord is great!

I have found very little value in how Discord gets used for anything and everything else - forums for video games, support channels for businesses, 1000+ member communities, etc etc. All of those use cases feel better served through traditional websites and forums... but it's so much easier to set up a Discord server for the average person it has turned into a weird default.

In that regard, fuck Discord.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Yeah anything ephemeral is fine like chats and what not. But this idea of using it as support platform is just dumb. You end up with people asking the same question over and over and it either doesn’t get answered because no one is around to answer it or likely because they’re annoyed at the same questions over and over. There is no organization and no institutional knowledge. It’s like it ends up being set up by people who think it’s what the cool kids want. And these giant communities just exacerbate this issue. Everything ends up being noise. It’s the reason I usually ended up turning off the world or general channels in WoW. It just ended up being annoying and distracting.

When I’m trying resolve a situation that I need some sort of support I wanna be able to search if others have had the same issue and see discussion around that topic. I don’t need synchronous communication for that. I don’t care if it was 3 months ago someone had the problem if they figured out how to fix it. The way to do that is forums, Reddit (well before the enshittification), or even Lemmy.

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Ie. The equivalent of sending the output of your wiki to /dev/null

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah that’s a good analogy.

[-] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 2 points 2 months ago

yep its horrible really should start suggesting discord servers move to lemmy, self host their own, a lot of them would be better off with a forum like structure, but lemmy isnt easily crawlable either, everyone hates being searchable

[-] skytrim@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

In my head Discord = toxicity. Not sure how it got that rep for me but it has gotten it. Thus, wont lose sleep if it dies out. Perhaps I am wrong. Reviewing rationality of this prejudice is on my ToDo List after a million other things...

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I despise discord from a user interface and business practice perspective. What a piece of shit

[-] joshchandra@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

This is exactly what I was gonna say: I'm amazed that so many millions of people can tolerate its atrocious UI. Even now, the amount of notifications I get from the constant text channels across "servers" (which is such a misnomer for merely "communities") is so ridiculous that I ignore 99.9% of it.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I think that naming was fully on purpose. People argumented with me that they had their own "servers" so that was good, right?

Grrr.

[-] simple@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah I remember voicing this concern when all online communities seemed to be going to discord and people seemed to mainly laugh at me in response at the time.

Because there hasn't been a single proper alternative until very recently, and even then they're not as user friendly.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

Discord is a terrible format to manage large, complex communities and projects, I don't know what you mean by an alternative to Discord because my argument is that Discord is shit for organizing.

Discord is great for chat, both voice and text, it is a great live space to have for a community. I don't dispute that. Sure there hasn't been good alternatives to recently for that specific usecase....

What I dispute, and what I am pointing out is that Discord ate forums, it ate all kinds of public, publically accessible formats for online communities that were much more easily searchable and collatable into useful information for everybody.

Discord is a fucking hallway of a thousand fractured silo'd conversations locked behind an account login. I hate Discord for destroying the internet before it which I could freely browse and learn so much more from.

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