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I don't know how extended this is, but apparently there are car makers selling cars with no keys. Instead you download a proprietary app and use it to access your car.

I like being practical and talking to a car to turn the volume up or down, to open the door or to turn the temperature higher are things I don't need nor want. Give me mechanical levers, reachable stalks and no proprietary bloatware. I don't need a movie theater on wheels.

Imagine an early 2000s car running on an electric motor. That's what I want.

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[-] invertedspear@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Ford is kinda doing it. The Mustang MachE and the f150 lightning both have physical keys, but the MachE and higher trim lightnings are very touch screen dependent. They have all the driving stalks and such, but to even turn the ac settings requires touch screen and worse menus. The lightning lower trims (XLT and pro) have a smaller screen and a lot more physical controls. There are still a couple things that are buried in the touch screen, but most anything you need while driving has a physical button. Pull a fuse to disable modems and it can’t even phone home to Ford anymore.

If you can find a 23 XLT you might even be able to get the extended range battery. 24 and later all ER batteries were tied to trim packages that included the big screen and fewer buttons.

If you can fleet order, you can get Pro trims with ERs, but they’re really hard to find in the wild.

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