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Booker Today During His Ongoing 22+ Hour Filibuster
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Booker: "I confess that I have been imperfect. I confess that I've been inadequate to the moment. I've confess that the Democratic Party has made terrible mistakes that gave a lane to this demagogue. I confess we all must look in the mirror and say 'we will do better.'"
I'd argue no. I'm kind of confused. I guess it's a prolonged speech protesting the actions of the admin in general? I somewhat applaud the push back by any member of congress, but I feel like it's a wasted gesture if it isn't specifically filibustering an important bill. This just seems like a publicity stunt rather than a meaningful action of resistance.
Its blocking all movement on the floor. Which slows all the garbage they are trying to push through.
I wouldn't call it a wasted gesture.
But there's nothing tabled that he's jamming up?
Why not wait to pull this stunt when trump is actually trying to push through one of his atrocious polices?
To me it seems like another 'look we're responding to your anger and calls to do something' performative action that doesn't actually do anything, that the democrats are so adroit at
It stalled the vote on Matthew Whitaker as Ambassador of NATO for 25 hours, which immediately happened afterwards and the vote passed anyways
Sure you could complain that it isn't enough. And by itself, it isn't.
It still isn't nothing.
I don't want to hear "this isn't ok" from Cory Booker, one of the most outspoken Zionists in the entire US government. He has no moral framework to stand upon. He's a proponent of genocide and his contention with Trump is largely theatrical. If he truly had a backbone or even a soul there are a million better choices he could have made before reaching this point.
This guy has taken $893,998 from AIPAC. He's paid for just like the rest. Fuck this guy.
Letting “perfect” be the enemy of “good”.
Cory Booker is far from perfect. But i will commend any good choice, and this is one of them.
"genocide is good"
-BlueMAGA Democrats.
He's literally one of Israel's staunchest supporters.
Yes.
And? What bearing does that have on what he's doing right now?
He and his party are responsible for an ongoing genocide, the worst humanitarian crisis currently.
He's personally responsible for helping funnel money to Israel for them to kill Palestinian civilians. This political stunt isn't changing that.
Do you support this genocidal maniac's stance?
It's not though, and the fact that you think it is just shows how much of a genocide denier you were when it was your team doing it. At least with Trump, you people while actually acknowledge it's happening.
The spike below was when biden took office.
There isn't a snowballs chance in hell anyone is going to convince me Trump has been and/or will be a more positive result for anyone in Gaza.
Enjoy your evening (or day, time zone depending).
So basically you straight up admit you don't care about facts and won't listen to them
What if Trump collapses the United States?
liberalism, not even once
He hasn't stopped being one of Israel's staunchest supporters. Cory Booker voted to approve Trump's nomination for CIA head, John Ratcliffe, a former US house representative. Ratcliffe has also been one of Israel's staunchest allies, such as supporting Israeli strikes on Iranian territory. Booker also voted to confirm Marco Rubio, Trump's appointee to Secretary of State. Why can't you see this? Booker is a snake and can't be trusted if this is how he conducts himself.
Booker is a clown, that's what this has to do with what he's doing right now. He isn't sincere and any supposed problems he has with "demagoguery" pales in comparison to Booker's own ghoulish support of continued genocide. You're asking us to respond positively to a proponent of genocide yelling at another proponent of genocide. Ok, Booker is telling people to resist Trump. By doing what exactly? Voting? Throwing molotovs?
Oh I know something you can do to protest Trump and it's even peaceful. You can support the BDS movement, where you boycott Israeli goods. That would make sense given the Trump administration's unwavering support of Israel.
Oh except Booker has repeatedly attempted to criminalize BDS, he's in full support of defining anti-Zionism as antisemitism, and I can't even find any evidence Booker has mentioned Mahmoud Khalil, the Columbia student who was thrown into federal detention for the supposed crime of being pro-Palestine.
Ive never heard of BDS, thanks for mentioning it.
bdsmovement.net is them, correct?
As far as the rest goes, I think I've been clear that I am supporting an action. Just like of a hard right wing jackass were to speak about dropping any and all support of Israel and their genocide, I would be supportive of the action said jackass was taking. I would still hate them for what they've done, but I won't boo them while they are doing the right thing.
Take the approach you want for yourself, I will continue to support good (or better described here, preventing bad I guess?) actions being taken.
Oh buddy. Maybe listen to your elders.
Cory Booker is a murderer and war criminal. The bodies of thousands of Palestinian children lay at his feet. He's not good in any respect. Stop doing apologia for genocide. In a just world he'd be at the Hague right now on trial with the rest of his colleagues. Fuck this guy. Death to Israel. Death to America.
Don't deflect; instead of an ultimately performative action, why didn't he do this when it could have done some actual good and possibly protected people by blocking one or more of trump's policies?
I know that sincerely engaging with this question may be intellectually uncomfortable for you, but please at least attempt to critically revaluate your pre-conceived notions about the American political system and the goals of the DNC, establishment democrats and their megadonors
Ive engaged with plenty of folks in this thread, but I don't appreciate the attitude youre bringing to me out of nowhere, so I won't be engaging in conversation further than this with you.
How dare you address me in a curt tone after I acted in deliberate bad faith and held water for nazis. I am above speaking to you and so I leave with my head high.
You're engaging in a comment thread I began lmao, and my attitude in asking you a very simple question in why didn't he wait to perform this gesture when it would actually have an effect is enough to stop you engaging? really?
That's the spirit that'll beat trump, hopefully you're rich and white enough that your complacency won't affect you personally 🙄
But why not wait to filibuster an actual policy as both a protest against the admin itself, and to call attention to, and spark outcry, about the policy? It still seems like a waste to not time this type of once in a lifetime event with a particular action by the admin. I feel like if he's going to do something like this, especially something historic which will get people paying attention, why not use all that attention to it's maximum potential? The garbage is still going to be pushed through eventually, but if he were doing it at the moment that a garbage policy was being pushed through it would call much more attention to it and create more pushback from people.
Because then theyd be waiting rather than doing? Because this isnt a filibuster, but they can still actually filibuster should something come up?
Because one does not preclude the other?
I didn't say one did preclude the other. My point is that if you're going to do something historic that, by it's unusual and uncommon nature, gets you more attention then usual, why wouldn't you use that gesture to BOTH protest, and filibuster a bill that will put more attention on the bill because of the historic nature of the filibuster?
And yes, by all means, continue to filibuster and stymie the admin's progress by filibustering whenever possible. However, the American public are notoriously short of attention, especially when something has already been done before, that subsequent filibusters won't have the same impact as the original, especially when you have outlets like Fox that can just spin it towards being not worth notice because "same old shit by the dems". People will eventually tune out, and the opportunity to really amp up the pressure on the Republicans will be lost.
.... Or do both, and break your own record?
I dont know about you, but I prefer something to nothing. And I will continue to support anyone being against what Trump is doing. So I'm not going to disparage him for this. I have plenty of things to complain about with Booker. This isn't one of them.
To each their own I guess.
That's my point, you can break your own record, but the media and public will be desensitized to it after the first time, sadly most people will tune out after the novelty has passed.
I'm not disparaging him, as much as I am calling into question the timing of it. Any pushback at all is welcome, but it just seems to me to be poorly timed in terms of effectiveness.
I guess we'll see what kind of effect this has afterwards and if it has a positive outcome.
I would think the novelty would be in doing it twice.
But that's just my opinion.
He could do all that by pulling a fire alarm.
Not really, pretty sure that'd be easy grounds for censure, and the fire alarm would be off in minutes.
And good heavens if he were censured it would affect his ability to do things