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[-] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Uh, no. GDPR is about how private data is stored, handled, and removed - and if it could be sent to third parties then only with the user’s consent. The consent is only a requirement if data is being sent to third parties - not sending data to third parties is perfectly fine and almost encouraged.

Source: working heavily with PII and talking to data privacy lawyers quite often

[-] Pirata@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

and if it could be sent to third parties then only with the user’s consent.

You literally said it. Apple removes this option.

Why are you even upset? Its not like you're being forced to allow your data to be transmitted. The GDPR wants a standardised way of choosing which apps can track you and which don't, and Apple is out of the norm. You're just upset because the EU is forcing apple to standardise, is that it? Were you also upset when the EU forced apple to adopt USB-C too? You're literally complaining about having more choice.

Also, I cannot shake off the feeling that everyone in this sub is just shilling allowing a massive US conglomerate to exploit all digital ad revenue on EU soil, while local smaller companies get jack.

It would be like some EU car manufacturer selling electric cars in the US that van only be charged using proprietary chargers from the EU. Surely consumers would be upset at the lack of choice, and with reason.

Or maybe not. After all, tesla was allowed to do just that for a very long time. In any case, the EU is opening business opportunities (or rather, re-opening them) by shutting down a monopolistic practice that harms competition. The US refuses to make use of their antitrust laws, so we have to do it for you. You're welcome.

[-] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Did you read past that sentence?

I am in no way trying to support Apple but perhaps you should reflect on the very questions and statements you’re making.

[-] Pirata@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I did, but what you said is incorrect.

Not giving away your data isn't encouraged and I challenge you to point out where in the law does that say. It would be stupid to even include such a passage because it would be a blatant attack on the advertising industry and the EU is a neoliberal pro-capitalist institution that wants businesses to operate inside the bloc.

And I say it again, this is a niche community, but a lot of people like targeted advertising.

I know, because I hate advertising and I preach to everyone around me that they should just reject all tracking and some have told me "but I want to see relevant ads. If I have to see ads they might as well be relevant to me." which is a totally fair point.

[-] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I can’t tell if you’re deliberately trolling or not but here you go:

Data minimization is a key principle of the GDPR. It requires organizations to collect and process only the personal data that is necessary for their specified purposes. It explicitly addresses data minimization in Article 5(1)(c) GDPR, which states that personal data shall be: “adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary in relation to the purposes for which they are processed (‘data minimization’).”

Here https://usercentrics.com/knowledge-hub/data-minimization/

[-] Pirata@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Did you just read "Data minimization" and assume it means that data collection should be minimized at all times?

There's a reason why when you fill the GDPR consent popup all advertising companies have the "legitimate interest" on by default, because it falls under the "data that is necessary for their specified purposes", which in their case means the purpose of displaying relevant ads and paying the app developer some money for it. And even then, you're allowed to turn that legitimate interest OFF.

I'm the one who's not sure if you're trolling or just a shill. How many rubles are they paying you?

[-] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

Thanks for mentioning what you did about “legitimate interest” - at least now it’s clear you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’d suggest reading up on it, looking at cookie banners on GDPR-compliant websites, and talking to privacy lawyers or people that regularly work in this space as a starting point. Have a good day!

[-] Pirata@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

I mean, I disagree, but thanks. Good dialogue.

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