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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com to c/casualconversation@lemm.ee

I understand America's history of poor treatment of minorities but what has caused many liberal white people to casually talk as if they aren't white.

Some examples:

  • A friend has an eastern European neighbor move in. He says he's glad they are that instead of American white.
  • Feeling they are individually responsible for what their ancestors and/or rich and politically affluent white people did in the past.
  • Acting as if white people anything is bad.
  • Making jokes at their own expense but won't dare say the same thing to another ethnicity.

I don't mean this post as a worm-brained right wing or political discussion, but just seeking to understand this odd internalized behavior I've seen recently.

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I really don't mean this to be about politics but about how people act!

Edit Thanks for the report @lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone I tried not to frame this in a controversial manner.

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[-] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

My personal, political and probably largely incorrect take about the feel or show of guilt of people who belong to oppressing groups even though they're not technically directly and actively oppressing people : from a puritanist moral pov, we should be fighting the system that enables the oppression with our full force, especially since we are benefitting from it and being less oppressed leaves us with more ressources to fight. But it is hard, probably dangerous to do so, and we have hundreds if not thousands of reason (simply easier, people we care about, your job, etc) to be at the very best quietly demonstrating and signing petitions. The moral feeling remains though, that we are betraying humanity, and i guess it could be linked to what you're describing.

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