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China has a stock market and investment banks. You can only have an investor class when everyone is not getting the full value of their labor. If everyone isn’t getting the full value of their labor you are not socialist.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -5 points 1 day ago

Getting the full value of labor has never been a part of any system ever. Where did you get that idea?

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Correct. Communism has never been allowed to succeed. Either it's been co-opted by fascists and dictators from within, or it's been crushed by the CIA from outside. Many small attempts have shown great promise, however, before the greedy and powerful slaughtered them.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 points 20 hours ago

If it's so easily defeated, don't you think that maybe it's inherently flawed? A good system would account for the greedy and powerful.

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