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Cool idea, problematic name. Have you considered any others? There’s a ton of racist/problematic connotations in the US with this name that probably wouldn’t be well understood in DE/EU…
Agreed. As an American, cool concept, rough name. There is no way I’m recommending a software called crackpipe at work.
And let’s say I wanted to use it, I’m going to install this and instruct my kids how to use crackpipe? I’m sure that will go over great with little Timmy’s school when he tells his teacher and friends.
I’d strongly consider changing it.
And it's not like you can even abbreviate it since cp has its own problematic connotations when it comes to the Internet
LMAO. Also are you excited for the LoD remake? I got some sources that say it's happening
And when we are troubleshooting, we'll be searching "crackpipe _____"... I can definitely think of a few scenarios where that'll return very different results than expected.
Would be kind of funny to skew Google results for crackpipe towards a game platform though.
I mean I get your point, but if you instruct your kids how to use a tool for managing pirated games, they are probably going to see a lot harsher stuff than the word "crack pipe"..
This is a tool for hosting pirated games. It's not meant to be safe for work or kids.
I get that the name is offensive, but it doesn't really matter. They're not going to hire a marketing team and do an IPO.
Also, the name makes sense. It's a pipe to transport cracked games.
It's actually more racist to be afraid to bring up crack pipes when Breaking Bad counts as totally tame watercooler talk.
Crack pipe isn't racist. People of all Skin tones can enjoy that sweet sweet crack.
In the US specifically there’s some historical connotations back to the 80’s and how the US government fucked over black communities by flooding them with crack. I’m sure you all didn’t mean anything racist/negative with this, but wanted to flag this to y’all since you were based in the EU and likely wouldn’t have the same connotations with the term :)
Anyways, best of luck with this! It’s a cool idea.
tthat's why it's always best to say fuck the fascist pigs that poured crack into the streets of minority populations as a form of cynical political maneuvering at the end of every comment, just in case.
Agreed. Not doing the least bit of research and choosing an edgy name makes this seem extremely amateurish.
“Amateurish”? This is literally a server for hosting pirated games, who gives a fuck.
Also, if your first thought after reading the word crackpipe is black people, maybe you’re the racist one.
And even if in the US it does have this connotation (IDK I’m not American), why should Europeans care?
The same reason you'd probably care if an American said something ignorant about Europeans. I feel like this is like saying "The N word wasn't used in my country, it doesn't mean to us what it means to you, so why do you care if I use the word?"
Obviously that's taking the example to an extreme, but I think you get the gist.
I’m actually not European (I mentioned it because others did in this thread, I think the developers are?).
In any case, I do “get the gist” but I disagree with it - why should the mainstream culture of a foreign country dictate what I can or can’t say (or name my project)?
And even if I did agree with you on that point, I would disagree with applying that logic to a term like “crackpipe” which isn’t considered a slur at all.
If you think the name is offensive, don’t use it. Once again, this project is a server for hosting pirated games, it’s not like they need to be advertiser friendly or whatever.
I don't believe that anybody is suggesting this. Obviously you can name your project whatever you wanna name it and use whatever words you wanna use. Nobody is taking that from you.
But just know that there world is a big place, and not everybody shares your viewpoints, and some of them are going to tell you why they disagree with you.
You'll have a choice in that situation. Either you change yourself to fit in with others, or you stay true to your beliefs and stick to your guns. There isn't an inherently wrong answer here. Whichever you go with is a personal choice that nobody can make for you, but you'll need to own your choice, whichever it ends up being. If you change your ways, you need to accept that you changed yourself, and that nobody else changed you. If you remain undeterred and choose not to change, then that's also on you. Nobody chooses your thoughts for you.
Sorry, that was a bit of a tangent, I know. It just irks me when I see people suggest that they can't say what they want to say and suggest that it's anybody else's fault, so I wanted to point that out.
I didn’t mean “dictate” literally, but whatever, I agree with everything you wrote pretty much.
I mostly went into this discussion in the first place because I was annoyed that like half the replies were about the name and not the software - when the name really isn’t that extreme. But at this point I’m part of the problem, so I’ll stop now.
well, you can't keep every weird american racist issue in mind, there are too many
Crack is smoked regardless of skin tone. As a US resident even the backwoods hicks around here smoke crack. Just because something happened to a certain race in the past doesn't make that thing racist.
Crack is bad regardless
i'll take one please
Even without the racist connotations in the US it's a weird name.
Obviously not as bad though
In the US they can change it to MethPipe
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The name is fitting because it's for cracked games, which are piped in a single programme. I don't think it needs changing.
You can rationalize it all you want, at the end of the day when you say crackpipe there’s only one thing that comes to mind.
I’m just imaging a conversation at work talking about a new game, and someone saying they haven’t picked it up yet and a colleague overhearing their co-worker say “just hit the crackpipe”.
Honestly even calling it CrackedPipe would be better than straight up crackpipe, lmao
I'm envisioning the possible reverse scenario where you get someone wanting some crack and won't take "Uhhh, I was just talking about a video game thing" as an answer
I had the same thought, but honestly it's software for pirated games. Pretty tame in the context of that landscape...
i know right? It's so awkward for me to talk about blasting folks heads off with my assault weapons in the latest gore simulator. If the word crack even enters the conversation you better believe it'll cause some stares
Everyone gets that. It's just that sometimes things can be clever and stupid, unwise, and an automatic NO
@starstough @LoafyLemon @alfagun74 this naming thing reminds me again of DeepCreamPy, which was a version of Deep Dream (written in Python) that fills in gaps in hentai
lmao that's fucking brilliant. Might get some glances on your resume until your next future boss hires you because he is a dedicated deep cream py user
I like to commit crimes while screaming that I'm committing crimes.
It makes the crimes more obvious so that everyone knows I'm committing crimes.
CRIMES
As a European, I honestly don't get what you're saying. Maybe it's worth thinking about not forcing your opinions and societal problems onto other people?
Care to explain? I'm curious.
Here’s a wiki article about the incident they are talking about. Basically it’s believed that in order to get money to arm rebels in Nicaragua the CIA assisted with importing cocaine to the US and specifically primarily black neighborhoods fueling the crack epidemic.
Check the Edit :)
Much better name!! Nice job responding constructively to feedback, wish more devs had the same level of grace with these types of situations. Wishing you all the best of success with this project!
It's just a name. You don't have to be mad. Not everything is gentrified to US, and there are other issues in the world significantly bigger than "racism".