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here's an example for you to drive home why sentiment like this is dumb and creates false equivalencies. when I was 14, I worked at a grocery store. there were two managers that I would get scheduled with. they both sucked and were awful human beings. however, one was a known child predator. which one do you think I'd rather get scheduled with?
To map your analogy to the US 2 party system the one who isn't a known child predator is also a child predator and works to keeps the other one in power. They both work for the same super predator.
Neither is also an option. You don't need to put up with either manager.
The sentiment isn't dumb. It's true. The Democrats don't give a fuck about us plebs. I voted for Harris and absolutely will vote for/choose the lesser evil as long as I'm still able. Doing so does not mean the Dems give any fucks about me.
Remember when Bernie had real momentum behind him and the Dems sabotaged him because Hillary was determined to have her run at the presidency? If the Democratic party gave a fuck about the voting public they'd have gone whole hog behind Bernie.
It the Dems cared about normies, they'd be doing more than performative filibusters that accomplish nothing. If the Democratic party cared they'd be throwing up every fucking roadblock they could to actually try and stop that motherfucker Trump and his fucking cronies.
Are the Dems a better option than the Republicans? Yes. Do the Dems care about us? No. They're just the less shitty choice.
I agree. I didn't say you're wrong. I'm just saying that the way this the meme is phrased creates a false equivalency that is misleading unless spelled out like you did
Got it. I misunderstood your comment. My apologies!
I couldve worded it better and replaced "sentiment like this" with "statements like this" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Even with Biden exiting late, that was a winnable election and the dems botched it by trying to fit as much evil as they thought they could get away with into the platform-- so they could cash the most checks from AIPAC.
If Harris had just said two weeks before the general that she thought what was going on was genocide, she'd be president right now and the minimum of campaign funding would have been lost. Sure the far right would never donate to the dems again, but when you look at what their donations cost us all, why would anyone take that money anyway?
Bringing their priorities into the party was always a massive mistake by DNC leadership.
And the dems like yourself learned nothing from the loss and keep preaching to others to accept lesser evils. When it comes to crimes against humanity I think you'll find for the dems that enough of their base says "never again -- for any ethnicity" that they should not even try this again unless they absolutely want to lose. Theres barely enough base to even try to win again in any case. We're past any sort of 'optimizing for highest $$' strategizing and just fighting for the party to even exist at all anymore. So maybe take your lesser evil metaphor and fold it till its all sharp corners and do the needful.
What makes you think that?
What evidence do you have?
The fact a bunch of people on Twitter said it doesn't mean it's a 1:1 ratio to voting.
All the polls agree people lean more towards Israel than Palestine. Particularly in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Once true, not anymore, unless you are talking within a far right republican silo. Support of zionism is now a losing issue, especially with democratic party respondents.
"53% of Americans have unfavorable view of Israel, compared to 42% in 2022" https://www.timesofisrael.com/most-americans-dont-want-the-us-to-take-over-gaza-pew-survey-finds/
"https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-toward-israelis.aspx"
Not favoring Israel's behavior is not the same thing as not supporting Israel existing.
And yet two thirds of Americans supported the most pro-Israel candidate we've ever had.
Nobody knows "what would have happened" and suggesting it is stupid. Ain't nothing predictable about this dimension.
Voting and issue polling is not exactly a totally random and unpredictable phenomenon. I know my peeps. If Harris said the words-- even pretended to deviate from Biden, youth and progressives would have showed. And yes, she would have lost the pro war crowd, but thats a tiny group compared to the ones who didnt vote or voted third party.
The youth never show.
And the "pro-war crowd" is larger than the "anti-war crowd" where it comes to Israel.
Note true. Who knew that murdering innocent human beings in cold blood would have consequences. Time to open that pocketbook and buy more hasbara marketing, zionists.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-toward-israelis.aspx
And yet more than half backed Trump, by far the more pro-Israel candidate.
She would have been president easily, but she loves right wing genocidal shit
I'm not a democrat and if I ever turn into one please put me down
And in this case, both are the child predators as they are both financiers of genocide.
Well in that case its simple. Take the nonpredator. Now in usa voterinos both are doing genocide together. In that case its also simple. Reject both.
Avoid that rapist molesting manager, Trump.