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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

In this case, wouldn't vegan be the opposite of organic?

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

No. Plants are vegan and can be used as material for shoes

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

But they aren't, vegan shoes would be made of polyester/nylon/other plastics.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

I have vegan shoes made of pineapple leaves. Checkmate atheist

[-] drinkwaterkin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

They're usually not, at least at this time. More R&D needs to go into plant-based materials for more options. Even so, leather itself is also anything but "organic."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQgcBUGD3g

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

The one in the post looks like it's polyester and foam. Why would plant based materials be better? I would think ideally you'd make the plastics out of ethanal and algie, but with how much processing goes into it, I'd hardly call that organic.

[-] drinkwaterkin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago
[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I didn't see how it was relevant.

[-] drinkwaterkin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Because even if vegan shoes are made of synthetic materials, leather is still arguably worse. Anyway, having more plant-based materials to work with hypothetically means anything made of those materials should be more biodegradable. But you have a point, biodegradability almost kind of by definition means the product in question is one that's not designed to last. There's probably a middle ground that can be found, like shoes that break down into soil-enriching materials after 50-100 years.

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