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Steam revenue estimated 2024: $10.8B

Google Play Store gaming revenue 2024: ~$31B

Why doesn't Valve want a part of that? I mean they already have an Android app. Several, actually. I realize there's some amount of investment but surely the payoff is worth it, and they have the necessary funds and skills? I mean if F-Droid can do it with nothing but volunteers and grants...?

Certainly plenty of games won't lend themselves well to the mobile experience but also plenty of them do.

From a personal perspective: I don't really care a whole lot for mobile games but I do like Balatro and want to play it on my phone, but if I want to do that I have to buy another license, which I can't even do because I don't run Google Play Services.

Epic got in on this already. Where's Valve?


Edit: my reflections on this conversation:

Valve could distribute their own app like Epic but they'd also probably have to remove it from the Play Store because now a cross-platform game would give them an Android version, thus breaking Google's ToS. So would doing such a thing outweigh lost sales from the Google version, and would it impact customer satisfaction? I wonder how many people are actually purchasing PC games in the Steam Android app...?

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[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

Because Valve has gone to fair lengths to not become shit, and they probably don't want to start now.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I don't understand what that has to do with the discussion.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Google has made quite some effort making android a mess for anything but themselves. If I were valve/steam I would not want to maintain a store on there

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Seems to work just fine for me and all of my 3rd party apps and stores 🤷

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Android is probably the least consistent os out there. And that every phone manufacturer has to have their own spin on it doesn't help. You got lucky, or some bog standard big brand thing

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

It's called diversity. It has its drawbacks but for the most part it works just fine. That's why it's the most popular mobile OS in the world.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

No, it's the most popular because it's free and can be stuffed onto basically anything while being pushed by the largest advertising company on the planet. Diversity has nothing to do with this

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

It can also be delivered with said advertising company completely removed from the system. Because it's open source.

Did you notice how the alternative wasn't even involved in this discussion? Why do you think that is?

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They were? Because steam already is on windows and linux?

As for Apple products: Apple does not like 3rd party app stores or allowing other companies to take payments. It took a legislative fight with the eu and quite a few fines before they decided to stop being ass much of a bunch of assholes.

If I had a good running market I wouldnt bother with apple either

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because steam already is on windows and linux?

Really? You're really going to pretend Windows and Linux are alternatives to Android? Can we just have an honest conversation, please?

It took a legislative fight with the eu and quite a few fines before they decided to stop being ass much of a bunch of assholes.

You're mistaken. They're still a bunch of assholes. If you specifically live in the EU you might be able to distribute your own apps but they still require Apple's rubber stamp and Apple still gets to collect the vast majority of their tax. Not the case for Android (anywhere). And it's been this way from the beginning.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

They're platforms you can game on, are they not? You can plug a controller or a keyboard in either.

Also I never said Apple wasn't a bunch of assholes. I'm just glad a government stood up to them

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, I imagine you don't. Which is probably why you asked the question in the first place.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

...would you like to explain?

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

They're implying that the entire android software ecosystem is shit and should be avoided

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Not Android specifically, I’m talking mobile games in general. I’m on iOS, and it’s not any better here. Mobile games are usually free for a reason, and that reason is that they are loaded with spyware, ads, and shitty monetization practices that I very highly doubt the majority of PC gamers on Windows, Linux, or MacOS would like to see become more prevalent on their platform.

And I while I don’t think Valve is some benevolent corporate overlord that’s looking out for what’s best for us, I do think they know how to extract a lot of value out of PC gamers for many years, and that’s by generally giving us what we want.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

loaded with spyware, ads, and shitty monetization practices

I mean that's already the case with PC games...? Only slightly better because they are not Google and don't allow straight-up ads for third-party products and services, which is what most of these "free" mobile games run on anyway. Valve has the potential to make a much better experience.

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

I won't, because it isn't a thing and never will be.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Excellent, so you agree it's not the problem you made it out to be?

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

That's the argument you decided to go with? Really?

Yeah, it's not a problem in the same way that you having a cohesive thought happen to wander through your barren mind is not a problem.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

It wasn't my argument, it was yours.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

You won’t get a notification unless I reply directly to you, so see my reply to the other person.

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