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I could get that for you, but I won't.
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The French are right. When you have fabled cuisine, lauded all over the world as the gold standard… you get resistant to change. And rightfully so.
Putain, non, is indeed the proper response to said question.
So France is intolerant towards lactose intolerant people and towards those with specific ethical dietary preferences. And that rightfully so! Be an asshole towards others! It's "in" these days and Paris has been known for being trendy. /s
French supermarkets all have very large and wide selection of "free from" style products for allergies and intolerances - gluten free, milk free. Plus vegan and vegetarian. In fact it would put most supermarkets in the US to shame. I also expect that many cafes in Paris cater for people with allergies.
So it's not that. More likely it's a surly waiter, or a tourist asking for something which is not on the menu and being upset by the answer.
The milk goes through the coffee machine. If they do that they effectively need two machines (or sets of machines), one with lactose and one without. It's not simply a question of having some oat milk in stock
Lactose intolerant people can drink black coffee, non?
Yes.
If you can't drink milk, don't drink milk. Drink the coffee without the milk. Or drink water or wine or tea or whatever else they serve.
When did a lack of little luxury accommodations like these milk substitutes become intolerance?
Does stocking milk ethically require that you stock alternatives for those who want something like milk, but can't have it?
Exactly. If someone wants or needs to avoid certain products, that’s great. There’s plenty of options. But it’s not a restaurant’s job to cater to every whim. They can’t always have everything.
I can’t have fish. My brother is allergic to peanuts. So I eat dishes without fish, he eats them without peanuts. I’m not going to ask for the ‘fishless salmon’.
Intolerance would be getting mad at someone for asking milk alternatives, which is what's criticized here.
Nobody is mad except americans telling other cultures how to act.
The waiter simply refused the order.
Not sure what America has to do with what I said. Don't try generalizing people, it's just discriminating for no reason and it doesn't work.
I was refering to @FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 's comment being aggressive and upset with the "Putain, non". It's just conservative because clearly they know what consumers really want, and it's not change, right, right?
So? I'm sorry but I don't get how that's related to the discussion.
Sure, they can. It's just that there's no need to feel offended at someone asking for a milk alternative.
Tabernac!!!!
The French would not say that. They swear, but the religious swears are the domain of the Quebecois. Anyway, surprised the waiter even said, "non." I'm my experience more likely to say they didn't understand you and then ignore you.
Ahh. I live next to Quebec, didn't realize that was a regional thing. What's a good French swear a Frenchman would use?
IIRC putaine (used by the connector above), salope, merde. Basically calling things sluts and whores and saying shit.
The equivalent to tabernacle may be " Bordel" (brothel) but I'm not sure (I'm French and we never use tabernacle). Overall our swears tend to lean towards sexuality more than religion e.g. "putain de bordel de merde ça me casse les couilles" (i.e. shitty brothel's whore, this breaks my balls).
I heard an authentic "putain de canard" from a parisian lady who was ascending from the metro and there was a bunch of pigeons on the stairs. Which when translated to my native finnish was "vitun ankat" (fucking ducks), which I thought at the time as being the funniest shit I've heard in french.
Lol, that must have been really fun ! Are you sure it wasn't "putain de cOnnard" (I.e. f*cking *sshole) though? That sure does sound French !
Of course I'm not sure. I've studied french for 6 years, practiced it alone for a few years, and real french pronunciation confuses the hell out of me.
France is intolerant towards people who, instead of having something brilliant that they can have, would rather have a bad imitation of something that they can't have. You're not getting judged or discriminated against for being lactose intolerant, you're getting judged for being béotien and not discriminated against, but educated. By being served better food than what you ordered.
That or they just plainly don't have it on the menu.
Lmao, the animal cruelty brain washing is real. Oat milk is just better in every single way in coffee.
Takes a vegan to take a general statement and make it about their pet issue. I thought you guy were forbidden to have pets? Whatever happened to that?
Tell the waiter "I'm vegan, what can you recommend", be served oilve oil brioche and a nice, round, black coffee. With a slight sweetness and aroma to it, chosen to specifically to complement that of the brioche. It could have been so nice, everyone could have been happy, you could have not been a philistine.
It's a French thing, you wouldn't understand it
Don't be weak.
Knowing ones limitations does not make one weak.
No, but having them does.
So about 2/3 of humanity is weak. My goodness, this arrogance!