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Like last time, these plot descriptions are based on those from Anilist, and you can use things like the structure of the title, the character names, and the occasional numeral to help you figure things out. You can also use the word-for-word translations from the previous quiz to help you figure out some of the more common words.

Hint: deciphering character namesThe lengths of names may be of use but don't expect them to perfectly match their lengths in Hepburn/English. Likewise initials might not always match the Hepburn.

Names are inflected with a masculine suffix -a and a feminine suffix -e, but to prevent hiatus these go through the following sound changes:

① {a(ː).V → Vː|V = any vowel} — as in *Sakura-eSakuré

② {O(ː).V → ø(ː)|O = round vowel} — as in *Tomoyo-eTomoyǒ, or *Kló-aKlő

③ {E(ː).V → jV(ː)|E = unrounded front vowel} — as in *Miyuki-aMiyukya

The sound change for front vowels may trigger further sound changes:

{Tj → TT|T = alveolar consonant} — but note that alveolar geminates are realized as palatals

ji(ː) → iː

In that order.


~~1: Ňav Zuzǒ~~

~~Kyertev R**e kot́iv ani ňey na yatazey, šo Huźisaňe ňa sinj́eskev vuśkede. Kyertev N*****ǒ na gvajera kot́iv ani tey, šo Huźisaňe ňa sinj́eske. Kav anskagunska he, R**e u N*****ǒ ńederinet́e, u xi he yéne so yegune kot́i ňey, so šo yont́i koy-rámene u žent́i yerezine.~~

2: Hay Hiḱey to yaRoyčoḱiya!

Pe-1-e A. M***ŕe ňa anime-dećti : kyertiv xaíde lo še na dećte ňa "sule : buhe" čay. Suliv daŕi to yeruňevše ko yecigempoĺevše, no še la nay nat́e yekoḱev anske hiḱev anime-dećte, na fe šo še ňa dećte dum aniḱe nay može čay. Rine K. S****é ňa ariḱe so yerokev roynasinćke : yénske, šo nat́e zede na yeydrestev M***ŕe. Ńesint́ev hazoske, šo sokruňeynevńe, yesnij́iḱev biśe so M. C****ye iḿej́eske ňa hoževše xaye : dećke he, ńehke čoḱiya na dećte va pset́e "yalanav lobuha" to yerokivńe.

3: YaVaňgleynav Buhčonska

Yaceyv vaňgla ňa keyn udet́e he, noževše u dent́e bone so ogestev ranske čay. Yažalav vaňgla ňa dot́e bone ko randogiyey so šo moḱiḱe še dum bonev gune. Yaceyv vaňgla ruňet́ey yežalevfe, no može pet́ede lo yaceyvfey so bonev so "yeKődev yeTruňeyne" iḿej́eske. Jaḱav so E. E****a iḿej́eska ňa si žari he vaňgleynav marka dent́av ŕusulska bene so yatǒvša so A*****a iḿej́eska. E****a so vaňgla ŕaza u hira va sot́a yarǒv yatǒvša na čoniya. So šo, yavaňgleyneyv 2 kot́a yőravńa va udet́a yaboneyvńa anskey, u yeKődev yeTruňeyne to yaradaxey.

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[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

This is awesome!!!

The queriesQuery 1: What is CONS supposed to mean?

The construct state is marked by -v and indicates that a word is modified by the following word(s).

Query 2: Do zuruňet́ey, truňet́ey, and yekruňuynev all use the ruň (head) root?

Yes!!! You've got the right idea for zuruňet́ey and yekruňuynev; you're close with truňet́ey but it's not "within" a head, but a different preposition.

Query 3: Does sokruňeynevńe also use the ruň (head) root?

Yes it does!!!

Query 4: Does -ećke mean "having the property of" or "motion away from"?

-ćk forms active participles from -t́ verbs — hence kaysulet́e becomes kaysulećke.


Other notes

Instead, I started wondering if the local suffix was the same and the nuance was more remote somehow.

There's a particle that forms comparisons. That same particle also forms "beyond" or "so much that" type phrases.

The assumption here was that the -o, -e, -a gender inflections for proper nouns would be paralleled from šo (that/where).

This is close — the deal is that šo is a pronoun that points to the previous clause, or serves as a complementizer or relative pronoun (hence rendering it as both "that" and "where" in glosses). I formed this word šo from š (root for third-person singular pronouns) from which we indeed also get še for "she" and as you evidently predict ša for "he", but the -o in šo is not a gender inflection so much as it's just a "filler vowel" I chose based on a number of other function words. I wonder if you might be confusing and -o?

The ya-/ye- prefixes looked they might be doing that for grammatical gender, so the assumption didn't feel unreasonable.

Note however that in possessive relationships, the possessed noun is inflected for the gender of its possessor — this can sometimes obscure a noun's grammatical gender.

-poĺ- was all that was left as a root for something book-y. (I got the impression that roots were broad).

The dictionary form of this root is really poli but because of the hiatus avoidance stuff it becomes poĺ more often than not.

but I had noticed na (on) before correlating -t́e and -t́a with verbs (at least in present tense), so I did wonder if place or put might also work in other contexts.

That is indeed the meaning of nat́, "to place" or "to put"! However I'd like to note that this language doesn't inflect for tense, only aspect.

had given me the impression that ye-XYZ-(iv)ńe meant "their XYZ".

Or at least ye-XYZ-ivńe means "their XYZs".

Capitalisation like that looks like it's representing proper nouns (or perhaps loan words), where there's a bit more phonetic similarity to English, so this was just a bit of simplistic guessing.

Capitalization marks proper nouns, yes. In this case yeKődev yeTruňeyne is a calque.

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